As usual, the overseas component of OCF tells it like it is. I started this thread because I had preconceived notions of the answers and these answers have validated the majority of them. It was very helpful for others to spell out these apparently disparate reasons especially the more controversial ones (like "sook'). Like in racial issues, comments by the actual class members are acceptable where the same comments by a non class member evoke criticism and outrage. So primarily female caregivers acknowledging issues that keep their male patients off the board can articulate them as just part of their loved ones character or in some cases, out of character. Were I to say the same things, they would be misconstrued as attacks. It's no secret that I favor the indomitable fighter model exemplified by ChristineB, EZJim, EricS, DavidCPA, Brian and many others too numerous to list individually (but you know who you are!)
I'm in the process of drafting an article that teases out the threads of these comments and weaves these disparate motives into a understandable narrative on this but if my current production timetable (as opposed to contemplation timetable) on my other writing projects holds true, it will be a year before I;m finished. It will be my opinion but one confirmed by your responses.
In the meantime, thanks to everyone for responding so honestly and candidly. And for those on OCF still reading, The thread is still open so it's not too late to add your story.
Keep the Faith

Last edited by Charm2017; 05-04-2011 07:04 AM. Reason: toned it down

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