Hi, Deb

[quote]you will see that the more "passionate" discussion came after we were attacked for being heavy handed[/quote]

There's the one of the problems right there - when these passionate discussions get going, all sorts of people feel attacked, and things go downhill from there. Another way of looking at it is that she was defending herself. Its like looking at the moon - do you see the man in the moon, or the silhoutte of the lady.

Maria