The way I look at the consumption of alcoholic beverages is that I had plenty in my pre-OC life, and now that I never want to go through THAT again, it is Gary's "no brainer" to abstain. It is one of the few things I am sure are connected to OC over which I have control, the other being smoke and smoking. That said, a former OC patient friend and I have decided that if and when we are definitely terminal, there will be much partying with banned substances (grin). I can wait.