Lisa,

I agree with Jerry -- sounds like the chaplain could use some career retooling (maybe into another line of work). As Amy mentioned early on in this thread, it's important for you and Bill to be comfortable with your counselor, and that certainly seems not to be the case right now with the chaplain. From one of your earlier posts, it looks as though you were referred to this person by your social worker. You may want to let her know that this doesn't seem like the right fit.

Cathy