Paul I completely agree with the whole supplementation overkill thought. I don't use much myself but have explored and experimented with some of them. Now I I stick mostly with whey (as I don't eat solids), bcaa's after a workout, fish oil, and the rest comes from whole foods, mostly fresh fruit's, vegetables and nuts.

I gained 40lbs of muscle over a summer with just good old fashioned exercise and nutrition, going from 140lbs to 180, which I've been able to maintain even on a liquid diet. As long as I don't wear myself down I feel good and keep a really active schedule...and I look great naked. laugh hahaha


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