The posting regarding there is no smoking gun related to spit tobacco was deleted by me, and that is why you will not find it in that thread any longer. The information was just completely incorrect. There is a direct link between oral cancer and spit tobacco and just because this posters relatives were able to live to ripe old ages and still use tobacco, doesn't mean that that applies to everyone. We all know that different genetic make ups make each one of us susceptible or not to different diseases, be they cancer, heart, or others. George Burns smoked cigars into his 80's (quit for the last 15 years of his life and never got cancer. ) But he was an anomaly not the normal person in the tobacco experience. I can't spend my days arguing with a particular poster about the information or some superficial point that thousands of peer reviewed published articles corroborate. So at times it is just easier to remove the incorrect information. Occasionally I edit a post and that leaves behind an included trail which states that OCF edited the post for content. But there was nothing in the post to salvage, it was total bunk. Sorry to be so blunt, but a spade is a spade. If you don't have the right information from a reliable source, you can only speak from your personal experience and that may be different than others experiences. That is ok to post, but to blatantly say there is no connection (