I completely agree (especially Glenn {my alter ego ha ha}) with all of you. Sometimes the religious element does get a little over the top here and like Mark, I too am active in my church and am involved in several different ministries. I think that Brian's approach to it is very fair and balanced. We do need to approach this in a manner that reaches the largest common denominator. AA has been successful at this for over 60 years now. Religion can really put some people off -some, understandably, even blame God for this. We all need to be sensitive to this.

We all owe Scott an apology for hijacking his thread.