The saga of Elizabeth continues. In the past 18 months we have seen her 6 times. She didn't even call her Dad for his 50th birthday in September. She is going through some smelly, not bothered, sleep all day, not washing for weeks, trampy phase, arrogant and mean selfish phase. Martin repeatedly invites her for a coffee, a day trip to London, a day trip to Brighton... More often than not she does even bother calling to cancel, when we do call to ask where she is it's always "oh I have a heavy period" (what every 2 weeks?!!!???). Martin and I and family have decided to have her refered to the Doctor because we think she needs som sort of councelling. But he has been at her house for hours on end the past 2 days, helping her tidy up her room (imagine at the age of 17!), offering an ear, showing he cares, but with a firm hand as she is so unruly. But now, she's topped it! He went there to give the last few Christmas presents we had bought, that she hadn't bothered picking up since Christmas (she lives 10 minutes walk away by the way), and she was a monster, a horrible monster. She said, she didn't want to come and see us because no one is on her intellectual level (yeah! schooldrop out with no job!) and we just talk. Shae said we never joke and laugh Bull***s, we do but she rolls her eyes up and stares looking sullen. And when Martin asked why she didn't want to see him again the answer was "Well what's the incentive!". She brought tears to Martin, and even the consultants announcing he had cancer never managed that. He left after that. How could you come out with something like that to your own Dad? Surely the incentive is to spend time with a now healthier Dad! We have an appointment on Thursday to see the doctor for her, but she has now pushed to far. How can someone be so uncaring, unloving, and cruel? This is the last thing you need when you are recovering! We just don't understand! I can only tell Martin that he is doing the right thing to take her to see someone, and offer hugs and kisses and love. But I can't undo the deep hurt she has caused today. I really really don't understand, where did we go wrong?