Thanks for your imput girls. Rods youngest called him on the weekend and said she would take him out for Fathers day this Sunday. 2 days ago he and I had a litle tiff over money, and I said, 'why don't you ask your family for a small loan of some money? He got mad with me & hung up. I called him back and said don't you dare do that to me again. He apologised. He said when I got home from work that he called his youngest and asked for a small loan. She allegedly said I have no money but let me see what I can do & I'll call you back. I bet our last 2 bucks with my mum that he wouldn't hear from her...I win!! Yippee!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm as I said, she came & got her things from the house but didn't knock on the door to see Rod. He was watching her the whole time out he window. Well.....allegedly according to her it is my fault for everything.....I'd love for at least 10 of my OCF friends call this girl and give her an outline. No point with the elder girl.....probably no point with either girls...they wouldn't know disrespect from respect if it were shoved in their faces.....