And when, because you've enabled him, he goes out and kills an innocent person or family in his car, then think again about your "big heart". Or when he starts stealing from you...

You "normies" are all missing the point - it's not because they "can't stop", it's because they WON'T stop. They know damn right well what they're doing and the effects and dangers, family destruction, incarceration, cirosis, diarrhea, hangovers, cancer, etc. They are UNWILLING to quit. Also, oftentimes mental illness if a component, as well as childhood abuse. I would bet that every single person on this forum has had experience with an alcoholic somewhere in their family.

The Big Book states very simply that "...you have to be willing to go to any lengths". True alcys are simply not willing. Many are also quite secretive about it.

Please GO TO ALANON and learn about this disease! You can also attend "open" AA meetings, if you want to see it from that perspective. Go to a speaker meeting.

Eric, I empathize with you "...an alcoholic is like a tornado roaring through the lives of others". Deal with your anger issues - it will set you free.

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Gary Allsebrook
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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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"You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)