So here's a post for those of your that think Gary and I never disagree on anything or team up to be critical of someone.

With respect to everyone's belief systems, and meaning no offense to anyone. That is probably the quote I hear the most from people, and like the least Gary. How often have we seen "God" give good people more than they can handle on these boards? Or around the world in the form of starvation, disease, social upheaval that they are innocents caught in the middle of and more. I think that prayer is a powerful thing, and there is no doubt that those with strong religious beliefs (regardless of what kind) do better emotionally when adversity is upon them. But I am less sure that God is always listening. Besides my experiences here with this disease, I held far too many good, faithful, young, boys in my arms in some far away rice paddy as they died. I think it is fair to say that in either case they were given more than they could handle.

Having said all that... I'm ready for all the slings and arrows....

Surely there have to be better religious quotes than that one.


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.