thanks so much for ur response, he has more tests tomorrow and most of next week,hes of the oppinion tha he doesnt want surgery if it is even possible but hopefully he will change his mind once hes had time to take it all in..the strange thing is he is doin everything normally eating drinking,no signs of anything wrong which is making it harder to take in,is this usually something that grows rapidly or will it take its time before it starts changing his way of life,i guess im wondering which way is the better way of life , operation and sick/uncomfortable/miserable for too long a time(and maybe not get all of it anyway),verses let nature take its course and hope for the best and live what life is left comfortably..