Understood! You are right about that. Since those involved in my conventional care were not really supportive about even PT etc, I extended holistic to those because they were not surgery, chemo or rad. Those professionals of mine said believe that you just give the body time and all will be well in 5 years. That is not true! From this site and others as well as looking at their "long term" patients indicate that the side effects such as fibrosis, stiffness, swelling, impact to range of motion to name a few will get worse without other alternatives beside just waiting. However you are technically correct. Professional and self lymphatic message and scar message are hardly holistic.