I am too angry, sad, crushed even to write anything meaningful now, but I will as soon as I get my composure and balance back together. But this forum has a new name if you look at the top of the page. It is the first time that OCF has recognized any individual. In a day or two it will be followed by a link to a short story that will be part of all your comments about packer and how he affected us all. More on Packers influence on me later I just can't do it now.