#98846 07-06-2009 08:36 AM | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 666 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP  "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts)
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 666 | Is there any good information linking OC with tongue piercing etc. (positive or negative).
To me it seems that because of possible irritation this "should" enhance infections etc and therefore should be if not causing it at least giving it a leg up.
My dentist tells his patients that they are at higher risk for OC. (if possible I like to give him some more ammunition). I confess I am a bit biased, I cannot wrap my mind around why anyone would screw around with their tongue unless they have to.
M
Partial glossectomy (25%) anterior tongue. 4/6/07/. IMRT start @5/24/07 (3x) Erbitux start/end@ 5/24/07. IMRT wider field (30x) start 6/5/07. Weekly cisplatin (2x30mg/m2), then weekly carbo- (5x180mg/m2). End of Tx 19 July 07.
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Ive wondered that same thing. With so many young people piercing their tongues and lips it only makes sense. The trauma would seem to push their risk of OC higher. Havent seen anything documented about it.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive  | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts)
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | If i live to be 100 i will never understand why anyone would want to do such a thing lol.Its not sexy,its not attractive it has no practical use and in my very humble opinion its bloody daft.
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 130 | The kids tell me that there is a "practical" use. That practical use does infact increase your chances of oral cancer. (wink, wink) I can't stand the sight of the things. To me "facial" piercings remind me of the tags on the ears of animals. I tell my childern that what they do is they find the "ugly" people and tag them! And tongue rings make me want to gage.
40 yr old. Stage IV SCC found left tonsil. PET/CT shows cancer on base of tongue, floor of mouth, lymph nodes on both sides. HPV 16 pos. 6 weeks of cisplatin, 43 days of radiation. 73gy on each side.
ND March 2, 2009
reoccurance dx'd Aug 19, 2009
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Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 | Each generation has to find a way to shock their elders and in the 60's, we set the bar pretty high for generations to follow.
David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer.
And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer.
May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
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Joined: May 2007 Posts: 666 | I would be shocked if "they" could add a few numbers in their head.
True story: how much is 10% of that..... out comes the calculator......!!!???
M
Partial glossectomy (25%) anterior tongue. 4/6/07/. IMRT start @5/24/07 (3x) Erbitux start/end@ 5/24/07. IMRT wider field (30x) start 6/5/07. Weekly cisplatin (2x30mg/m2), then weekly carbo- (5x180mg/m2). End of Tx 19 July 07.
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | There are more places that would have to be especially painful, LOL especially on a woman hell that would have to ruin sex too.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Joined: May 2007 Posts: 666 | Is anybody aware of real data regarding the original question?
M
Partial glossectomy (25%) anterior tongue. 4/6/07/. IMRT start @5/24/07 (3x) Erbitux start/end@ 5/24/07. IMRT wider field (30x) start 6/5/07. Weekly cisplatin (2x30mg/m2), then weekly carbo- (5x180mg/m2). End of Tx 19 July 07.
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Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 | Marcus - you know how to research this as well as anyone.... but I did a search and called around. No published evidence. Infections? Yes. Hyperkeratosis? Yes. Cancer... nothing to support that. He would have to be one of those that believes that chronic irritation can cause cancer, which the evidence is very weak on.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 | Each generation expresses themselves differently and yes the tongue piercings do have their benefits, for those that don't know or are slow on the uptake (like me) the tongue piercings are for enhancing oral sex. Men, now more then ever, are bombarded by being the "sensative" type and so much pressure to be the greatest lovers in the world...to a wicked end I think. So I don't believe it's what they are putting in their mouths as what they are doing with their mouths that is the concern. Let's face it most people think just using a condom is safe sex...it's hard to be seen as a sex god with a dental dam or packin a roll of plastic wrap. I personally wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason I developed OC even though I was HPV neg...I guess it sure beat smoking in the fun factor but if I knew then what I know now, I'd have bought stock in Saran. sorry if I offended anyone Eric
Young Frack, SCC T4N2M0, Cisplatin,35+ rads,ND, RT Mandiblectomy w fibular free flap, facial paralysis, "He who has a "why" to live can bear with almost any "how"." -Nietzche "WARNING" PG-13 due to Sarcasm & WAY too much attitude, interact at your own risk.
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