| Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | Ms T.,
I also would like to know the name of the cream. I have precancerous lesions on my feet, some of which have recently turned to SCC. My dermatologust keeps cutting them off, but there are too many and they are spreading. This cream sounds like what I need.
Thanks, Eileen
---------------------- Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | I have read a lot about so called causitive agents over the years and it could as simple as drinking liquids too hot or too cold, using mouthwash containing alcohol, second hand exposure to cigarette smoke or any smoke for that matter, fireplaces, kerosene heaters, etc. Soot is suspected as a causitive agent, especially from diesel engines. Paint and ceiling samples can be sent to labs for analysis if you suspect that. The immune system (and genetics) obviously plays a large role in it. Basically the theory is that anything that acts as an irritant can cause a mutation. That's why, for that small group without a definitive reason, the cause can be so elusive. If we really understood all of the reasons for cancer we would have had a cure by now.
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Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 580 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 580 | It is natural for people to want to know the why someone got cancer and what caused it. As many have eluded to in this thread it could be a multitude of things and possibly a combination of these things. There is not always a black and white answer. The human body repairs and replicates billions of cells every day and does an incredible job at it. The error margin in normal cell replacement has an error margin of less tha 0.0000000000000000001 % (these zeros are not arbitrary I did the math.)Most of these errors do not lead to anything more than unnoticeable inconspicous changes between neighboring cells. On occasion an error can cause a catastophic change in the cell and lead to a process of events that eventually cause malignant cancer. Your bodies immune system eliminates and or destroys millions of rougue (potentially cancer cells) every day...wow. Every once in a while one gets through. To say that this process is 99% successful would be catastrophic. If a 99% sucess rate were acceptable that would mean that every single day over 300 planes would crash, over three hundred thousand cars would be in accidents and more than one million pedestrians would be injured in car accidents!! So your body is more than a hundred million times more efficient than 99%. If you can find out the why and what and eliminate it that is wonderful but, if after asking and looking you come up lacking just remember on rare occasions bad things happen to good people. Just my 5 cents worth. Cheers, Mike
Dentist since 1995, 12 year Cancer Survivor, Father, Husband, Thankful to so many who supported me on my journey so far, and more than happy to comfort a friend. Live, Laugh, Love & Learn.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 37 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 37 | I can�t help but reply. I just had cancer removed form my tongue and the situation is not over. I don�t smoke or drink, can run the 100 in 12 sec, 5 times in a row,( I�m 52), eat healthy , no family history of any kind of cancer and my HPV screen came back neg on like 16 strains . The list of possible contributors is long. The ones I�m working on are: plastic byproducts,( I have been drinking out of picknick cups for 25 years because I don�t like to do dishes�going to glass like normal people), dental fillings, I�ve got a mouth full of them � going to get patch tested (Mayo Clinic found 80% of nonsmoker/nondrink oral cancer folks were allergic to metals in their fillings in one test series), better oral hygiene,eating more fruits and veges. And any other simple change I may learn about that could possibly be contributing. One doctor tested me for vitamin D deficiency but that was way off base. Mike SCC tongue surgery 12/08 | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | My view is that I could drive myself nuts trying to figure out where it came from and never find out or I can get on with the rest of my life and not let the fact that I had cancer dominate it. I personally prefer the latter approach -- And I will let the smarter people with more resources than I have deal with the causes -- Were this ten years ago, would we even be suspecting something like HPV?
Age 67 1/2 Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05 Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08 Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08 Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06 Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08) Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08) On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Mike
Don't beat yourself up. Pete has the right perspective (in more ways than one). You simply could not beat my diet for the last 20 years (organic, 99% vegetarian, home cooked, etc) nor exercise routine : running (nice times you posted btw. I'm still proud of my 3:15 Marathon time and 33 min 10K) and fitness. Never got a cold, nor flu, nor headache. Last surgery was before college (arm broken in high school "red dog" pileup on me for clotheslining a far too larger opponent) Haven't eaten any sugar or honey or high fructose corn syrup for 15 years. Do Yoga, Pilates, meditation and think as positive as all get out. Result: very aggressive cancer. Think about the future brother, not the past. 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I'm lucky in 2 ways:
First I have an answer (at least I've been told that) when I'm asked 1 million times "what caused your cancer?".
Secondly look at the odds I beat to get my cancer according to Dr Mike's math.
So why can't I be lucky enough to win the Powerball?
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | But what caused your HPV? It likely wasn't there when you were born... You DID win a MAJOR lottery -- You won extra years -- Priceless and almost tax-free (you do have to pay the taxes on the extra earnings from your extended life!). BTW, did you realize that the gummint has actually figured a way to tax our DREAMS? To dream about winning the lottery, you have to buy a lottery ticket!
Age 67 1/2 Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05 Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08 Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08 Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06 Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08) Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08) On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 | [quote=Pete D]My view is that I could drive myself nuts trying to figure out where it came from and never find out or I can get on with the rest of my life and not let the fact that I had cancer dominate it. I personally prefer the latter approach -- And I will let the smarter people with more resources than I have deal with the causes -- Were this ten years ago, would we even be suspecting something like HPV?[/quote] I agree completely with you Pete. The first question that everyone asks me is "were you a smoker?". I just tell them yes and move on. Today is what I can spend energy on. I'm a big fan of Dr Dwyer and Pulling Your Own Strings is one of my bedside books that I re-read portions of often. Don't worry about what you can do nothing about. Patty
48 SCC Floor of Mouth 7/06 9/06 Surgery, bilateral neck dissection, 58 nodes clear PT2pN0pMx 35 rad 2006 Recurred 6/08, 1 Carboplatin, 1 Cisplatin Surgery 9/08 - Total glossectomy, free flap from pectoral muscle, left mandible replaced using fibula 35 IMRT & Erbitux 11/08 4/15/09 recurrence 6/1/09 passed away, rest in peace
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Pete, Pete said....But what caused your HPV? It likely wasn't there when you were born... ....a little tiny tiny virus. Also I'm cheap, I dream about winning the Lottery but I never play.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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