#88713 01-23-2009 11:02 AM | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 476 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 476 | Hi. Glad I found these message boards. I am 46 and my hubby is 55. My husband has never even tried a cigarette or tobacco products. He does have (1) "adult beverage" every evening after work. The Friday before Christmas my husband woke up and noticed a large lump in the side of his neck. He went to the doctor who ordered blood work, CT Scan and follow-up with the ENT doctor. Blood work was normal but the CT Scan showed the mass in his neck as being 2.5 cm by 3cm and some thickening at the base of his tongue. The ENT specialist drew fluid out of the mass in his neck and the results came back malignant. This past Tuesday my husband had a modified/radical neck disection and lots of scoping done. The mass in his neck was a malignant lymph node. He removed that and the lymph nodes from that side. The primary tumor is at the base of his tongue and everything else looks clear. He said the tumor is a small lesion and was caught fairly early.
I feel like my head is spinning and I am in a fog. My husband takes great care of himself - vitamins every day, salad every nighT with dinner etc. He is home and recovering from the surgery. It is very difficult talking and swallowing. We have a follow-up appointment next Tuesday and hopefully he will have all the pathology reports back then. He told us that he won't need chemo but will definitely need radiation and to have a feeding tube put in before radiation starts. Is a feeding tube always necessary and how long does it stay in? I know I will undoubtedly have many, many questions. I appreciate all your help. I just lost my mom September 2007 after a long 3 1/2 year battle with Pancreatic Cancer and I am scared to death. I don't really know anything about this type of cancer. Thanks in advance.
Wanda (47) caregiver to husband John (56) age at diag.(2009) 1-13-09 diagnosed Stage IV BOT SCC (HPV+) 2-12-09 PEG placed, 7-6-09 removed Cisplatin 7 weeks, 7 weeks (35) IMRT 4-15-09 - treatment completed 8-09,12-09-CT Scans clear, 4-10,6-11-PET Scans clear 4-2013 - HBO (30 dives) tooth extraction 10-2019 - tooth extraction, HBO (10 dives) 11-2019 - Left lateral tongue SCC - Stage 2
| | | | Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 531 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 531 | Hi you have definately tapped into a pool of knowledge, experience, caring and love. It is a wonderful place to ask questions, vent, laugh and a place to feel safe. It was probably the best place for me when I was diagnosed. It is ok to be scared but more importantly to keep one foot on the floor. If you read some posts there are many many happy survivor biographies. I am sure there will be a lot of people with more experience chime in. All I can tell you is that most here will agree waiting is just the one of the hardest tasks to do. And what I was told to take one moment at a time, one day at a time...Every day is a new day!!!
Dianne..treatment at cc at Victoria Hospital, London, Ontario...insulin dependant, Surgery Sept 8/08 Tracheotomy,composite resection and bilateral neck dissection, left radial forearm free flap... T2N0 squamous cell carcinoma. No radiation A little over 2 yrs clear YAY
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Welcome to OCF. Glad that you have found this site. There is tons of info not just on the forum but also on the main pages of OCF. Both areas can be easily navigated with the search function. You will find lots of support here to help you along. Being a caregiver isnt an easy job. Take a notebook to the appointments and take notes, sometimes the info can be too overwhelming to remember.
As far as the feeding tube goes. That can be a hot subject around here. Some swear against it while others have found it a life saver. The length of time its in is all up to the patient on how well he recovers and can properly eat. Everyone responds to treatments differently. What works for one might not be the best for another person. I used the feeding tube for about 1.5 yrs and recently had it removed. For me, it was a necessity.
Sorry about the loss of your mother. Im sure it wasnt easy for you with her fighting for that long. Please feel free to ask questions, we are here to help.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | I recall seeing some sort of nature documentary where a lake in Africa was drying up and all the frogs were gathered on the damp edges, with snakes gliding amongst them -- The frogs are all frozen in fear of the snakes and suddenly one frog moves -- A snake pounces, but misses the frog that moved and hits one of the stationary frogs instead -- The look on the frog's face is obvious -- It wasn't ME! I didn't move, HE did! Take him, not ME because I am following the rules and you can't punish ME for that!
I just rechecked the bottom of my foot and there are still no warranties for this or any other state!
Age 67 1/2 Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05 Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08 Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08 Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06 Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08) Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08) On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Slim, See my Signature Line below. I also had BOT primary and mets to my nodes. I didn't have a ND nor did I opt for a Peg. If he does get a Peg he MUST exercise his swallowing muscles each and every day or those muscles may forget how to. I am a little surprised they don't recommend chemo or at least give him the option to add it. I would really ask them what their thinking is. You also need to look into HPV as that's what caused my cancer and I was a non tobacco user. We all understand your's and your husband's mental state right about now but this cancer is beatable so take a deep breath and be thankful you found the best site in the world to help get you guys through this Tx and the recovery. Ask away or just vent.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 | Welcome Slim and my deepest sympathy for the loss of your mother. It is a normal reaction to be afraid, but you have found a very good place to get answers that will end some of your fears and the support that will make you strong enough to fight those fears.
Is your husband being treated and a Cancer Treatment center? Remember that it is important that you understand what the doctors say and that you have confidence in them. If you don't get another opinion. I read a recommendation that you start a notebook that goes with you to all of your appointments for notes, questions and instructions. I did it and still take it with me to each appointment. If I think of a question today for a doctor that I am seeing in two weeks, I will write it down now so that it does not go unanswered.
It must be very difficult to see someone you love go through this battle, but take care of yourself and be strong. This is a battle that he can win.
Patty
48 SCC Floor of Mouth 7/06 9/06 Surgery, bilateral neck dissection, 58 nodes clear PT2pN0pMx 35 rad 2006 Recurred 6/08, 1 Carboplatin, 1 Cisplatin Surgery 9/08 - Total glossectomy, free flap from pectoral muscle, left mandible replaced using fibula 35 IMRT & Erbitux 11/08 4/15/09 recurrence 6/1/09 passed away, rest in peace
| | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,004 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,004 | Hi Slim,
Welcome to OCF. LIke others have said..you will find many wonderful people here with great information. I wish you and your husband much luck. Always ask a lot of questions. Knowledge will let you know what questions to ask.
Suzanne
Suzanne *********** T1 SCC on right side of tongue Age 31...27 when diagnosed 4 partial glossectomies No chemo or radiation Biopsy on 2/2/10-Clear Surgery needed again...no later than April 2011 Loving life and just became a mother on 11/25/10 It's not what we CAN'T do..it's what we CAN do:)
| | | | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 | Hello Slim, Sorry that you have had to find us. Could you clarify: Did they also remove the primary tumor (and part of his tongue)? Thanks, it helps when we know what has been done.
Some of us did do radiation without PEG feeding.
Take care
Mark, 21 Year survivor, SCC right tonsil, 3 nodes positive, one with extra-capsular spread. I never asked what stage (would have scared me anyway) Right side tonsillectomy, radical neck dissection right side, maximum radiation to both sides, no chemo, no PEG, age 40 when diagnosed.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 126 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 126 | Hi, Last Nov. I was in the same place you are right now. Shock, disbelief and totally freaked out. We also are into organic gardening, hiking, vitamins, herbs, etc. How on earth could this happen to us. I've come to the realization that cancer can and does happen no matter what. It still seems unreal at times. I often feel like I'm in a parallel universe, but then I realize that this is our new reality. Unchartered territory. My husband, Richard, also had an enlarged lymph node. The first needle biopsy was negative, but when they retested 6 wks later they found SCC in the node. After subsequent tests they found a small mass at the base of the tongue. All the other tests were negative and the RO told us that the radiation would shrink the lymph node and get rid of the cancer.
We are doing 3x Cisplatin and 7 weeks of IMRT rad. Richard just finished his 3rd week with 4 more to go. Believe me, I'm counting the days. I know he will still be recuperating after that, but not having to go through any more treatments will be wonderful. I'm surprised that they are not doing chemo. I always thought that with a node involved that was the standard treatment. Gather as much info as possible from this wonderful site before you see the doctors. Knowledge is power and you will feel more in control and informed. Richard also has a peg tube and we are very glad for it. Your husband will adjust to it and then he'll be able to "eat" when his throat is too sore. As long as he continues to swallow he'll get through it. Ask me any questions. Geri
Geri-CG to husband Richard, 62 yrs old. Former smoker, quit 30yrs ago, light drinker. Dx after tests with BOT T1N1M0. Tx to start by end of Dec. Seven wks IMRT with 2x Cisplatin-2x Erbitux. Peg in 12/08- removed 4/21/09. Looking good so far. Clear Pet &MRI 8/2/09
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 | Hi Slim - I'm another newbie and scared too. Husband was diagnosed 12/19/08. This forum is the best thing you could have found. I cried and googled for a week before finding this. Since then I've learned more from the fine folks on here than anywhere else and I've stopped crying and started fighting. As others have said, get a notebook, write down everything, keep every doctor's card, pamphlet, etc. Ask questions. The folks on here are wonderful with their answers and just go one day at a time.
CG to H with SCC BOT T4N2cM0 dx 12/19/08, teeth removed pre-tx; Erbitux & RT-done 3/12/09, PEG 2/9/09-7/14/09; ND 6/16. Pet 6/12-no mets except lymph node in neck removed on 6/16. Chyle leak,2nd surg to repair. Dilate esophagus 4/15/10. Clear PET 12/17/10
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