#88455 01-19-2009 07:39 PM | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 | Today was our treatment planning with the RO. H had petscan on 12/31/08. Local hospital gave us a cd to handcarry to the tumor clinic on 1/7. Tumor clinic opened the cd and someone's MRI of their brain was there. We were told that the tumor clinic had made a call and it would be straightened out. Meeting today and no petscan. Call to tumor clinic - no petscan. Call to local hospital, in less than a charming tone of voice, and they assure me the disk will be fedex'd to doc by 10 am tomorrow. In the meantime, doc can't tell us if some of the stuff on it is cancer or not as all he has is the written report (likely written by a monkey) and therefore we don't know if we're shooting for cure or control of this thing! Mask done today. Chemo starts Wednesday with Erbutix 1 x weekly and rad starts on Monday (18 treatments 1 x daily and last 12 will be 2 x daily). Just needed a place to rant.....and a reminder to all who are starting this process to stay on top of everyone involved. Keep notes, keep copies of stuff, keep a calendar and phone numbers handy.
CG to H with SCC BOT T4N2cM0 dx 12/19/08, teeth removed pre-tx; Erbitux & RT-done 3/12/09, PEG 2/9/09-7/14/09; ND 6/16. Pet 6/12-no mets except lymph node in neck removed on 6/16. Chyle leak,2nd surg to repair. Dilate esophagus 4/15/10. Clear PET 12/17/10
| | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 | Cheryl
Rant away - you have every right to be really PO'd. Are you sure that this is the right place for treatment??
I hope that things get better from here and you are right - you have to watch everybody and everything any more. I miss the time when people were responsible and cared about the job that they did. Most of them now are just there to draw a check.
Good luck and I hope tomorrow is a better day.
Patty
48 SCC Floor of Mouth 7/06 9/06 Surgery, bilateral neck dissection, 58 nodes clear PT2pN0pMx 35 rad 2006 Recurred 6/08, 1 Carboplatin, 1 Cisplatin Surgery 9/08 - Total glossectomy, free flap from pectoral muscle, left mandible replaced using fibula 35 IMRT & Erbitux 11/08 4/15/09 recurrence 6/1/09 passed away, rest in peace
| | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 794 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 794 | I always ask for two copies of my cd's....one for the dr., and one for me to keep...maybe for OTHER doctors....Of course, in this case, you would have had TWO copies of that other person's brain scan.....arghhhhhh. But it's your property, and you have a right to it. If there is a fee, it should be only a few dollars.
That's unconscionable carelessness. You deserved to rant. Now I feel like ranting on your behalf!! XO
Colleen--T-2N0M0 SCC dx'd 12/28/05...Hemi-maxillectomy, partial palatectomy, neck dissection 1/4/06....clear margins, neg. nodes....no radiation, no chemo....Cancer-free at 4 years!
| | | | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 756 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 756 Likes: 1 | I've also received CDs of my scans, and being a curious person I would insert them in my PC and take a look. Not sure what all I was looking at, but I was able to verify that they were indeed mine.
Since my adventure began I have seen many different doctors, so I got in the habit of asking for copies of all my medical records and various tests and bringing them along with me to my doctor appointments.
Cheryl, you do have a right to rant. That was a very dumb and careless mistake. I hope the rest of his treatment goes smoothly.
Susan
SCC R-Lateral tongue, T1N0M0 Age 47 at Dx, non-smoker, casual drinker, HPV- Surgery: June 2005 RT: Feb-Apr 2006 HBOT: 45 in 2008; 30 in 2013; 30 in 2022 -> Total 105! Recurrence/Surgeries: Jan & Apr 2010 Biopsy 2/2011: Moderate dysplasia Surgery 4/2011: Mild dysplasia Dental issues: 2013-2022 (ORN)
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Cherly, it was probably typed in an entire room full of monkees. I stopped getting copies of the CD's because even though I work in the radiological products industry, particularly in diagnostic radiology workstations, unless it jumps out and smacks me in the face - I don't know what I am looking at either. The original tumor was pretty obvious - it was big and blocking my throat. It would actually cut off my breathing while sleeping at night. Subsequent scan anomalies were much more subtle and required reading by a radiologist. I also had one time when they gave me someone elses study so much for HIPPA!
The way that it works, in practice, is that the scans are sent to a central office/reading suite, where copies are made by technicians, the readings and reports may be done there as well. All of the scanners from the hospital, Gamma camera, Ultrasound, CT, MRI, PET, LINAC x-rays, etc. all end up in the same place. It is easy to make a mistake, especially with the volume some of these institutions have. I've had MRI's late at night, on weekends, etc.
Since I have an HMO, all of my treatment, meds, etc., were all on their coordinated database (which ironically I submitted the 510K to the FDA for clearance to market for). It is a very wise idea to get copies of all of your medical records, scan reports and lab tests. I wouldn't bother with getting actual scans. This information is vital if you are going to submit an SSDI claim to Social Security.
Totally agree with you about the notes and everything. My wife did all of that. The docs really move through the stuff quickly.
Last edited by Gary; 01-19-2009 10:31 PM.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Sorry you are going thru such a frustrating time of it. Being organized is very important. Sounds like you are doing a good job.
I carried a small day planner with me and a small notebook to every office visit. I took a business card from every person I talked to or met with and stapled it to the inside covers. Many times I found myself goign back to get the names and numbers for people I met during the beginning of my adventure. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 | Thanks folks for listening to me rant....it's a new day and while I'm still irritated beyond words, I'm better - which just means my head has stopped spinning.  It's the local hospital that's responsible for this screw up so if docs at CCC (2 hr away) don't receive that disk today I'll be at the local hospital before the end of business today. The pressure of not knowing what we're facing is just a bit much - all of it is overwhelming of course, but we're almost 3 weeks out from a petscan and don't know if we're looking at metastasis or some other problems.
CG to H with SCC BOT T4N2cM0 dx 12/19/08, teeth removed pre-tx; Erbitux & RT-done 3/12/09, PEG 2/9/09-7/14/09; ND 6/16. Pet 6/12-no mets except lymph node in neck removed on 6/16. Chyle leak,2nd surg to repair. Dilate esophagus 4/15/10. Clear PET 12/17/10
| | | | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 114 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 114 | Does your CCC have a patient advocate? Mine does and in situations like you're describing it's been invaluable. It's somebody you can talk to about frustrating things going on like that. We found that when we talked to that person things got straightened out in a hurry.
Age 41 - Stage 2 SCC tongue Dx 2/06. Cisplatin x3, IMRT x35. Mets to neck node discovered 7/07. RND 40 nodes removed, margins not clear. Cisplatin, Taxotere, 5-FU Fall 07, then IMXT/Erbitux for 7 wks. Inoperable mets to both lungs and pleura Dx Oct'08. 4 cycles Carboplatin, Erbitux, 5-FU so far.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 | Good news - doc's office phoned me at 10:30 this a.m. and they have the disk  I haven't looked into a patient advocate thing as I did legal advocacy for the poor for 20 years. Handled most of the SSA claims through the hearing stage so I know the drill, it just irritates me....some things never change.
CG to H with SCC BOT T4N2cM0 dx 12/19/08, teeth removed pre-tx; Erbitux & RT-done 3/12/09, PEG 2/9/09-7/14/09; ND 6/16. Pet 6/12-no mets except lymph node in neck removed on 6/16. Chyle leak,2nd surg to repair. Dilate esophagus 4/15/10. Clear PET 12/17/10
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Thats positive news, glad they found your disc.
The whole process can be overwhelming. So many doctors, appointments, medicines, treatments. Seems to be so much to do that it can wear you out just going from appointment to appointment. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | |
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