#56061 01-11-2005 06:49 AM | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 90 Senior Member (75+ posts) | OP Senior Member (75+ posts) Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 90 | Hi everyone, I have a question. My husband Ron finished radiation treatments on his throat about a month and a half ago. His throat is still very sore and he's still not up to speed in the eating dept. This past weekend we flew up to Seattle to visit my in laws (we live in Southern California). While in Washington, Ron's throat became much more painful, and he had an even harder time eating. He had to take more pain meds during that trip, and he's been weaning himself off the pain meds. Can the cold weather effect his throat that much? I know the air in airplanes is dry, but the flight was only 2 hours. Has anyone else experienced this, or do you have any idea why this happened?
Thanks for your help,
Shelley
Caregiver to husband, Ron. Throat cancer, Stage II. No Chemo or Surgery. Completed 35 Radiation Treatments in November 2004.
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#56062 01-11-2005 09:46 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Shelley,
Even a year and some (2-3) months after treatment, I still struggle when the weather gets cold and dry here in Texas. We have been going from 80 to 20 in a couple of days for a while and I really notice the colder mornings. It hurts and I seem to have to learn how to swallow all over again. For many weeks after treatment, I had to travel on an airplane (only about 45 mintues) and I noticed it, too. We flew on a 13 hour trip to Japan and I thought it was borderline unbearable. Lots of water seems to be the best answer. Even on extended trips in the car (5+ hours) with the air conditioner on makes the throat hurt and I have difficulty swallowing.
Ed
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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#56063 01-11-2005 04:23 PM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 | Shelley,
It doesn't take much -- I just got back about an hour ago from a day trip to northern Vermont (where the air was colder and drier) and my throat is in pain. I try to avoid planes as much as possible because of the dryness factor, and when flying is unavoidable, it's important to get enough fluids to stay hydrated.
Cathy
Tongue SCC (T2M0N0), poorly differentiated, diagnosed 3/89, partial glossectomy and neck dissection 4/89, radiation from early June to late August 1989
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#56064 01-12-2005 11:54 AM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 108 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 108 | Hi Shelly; From the frozen north of Canada I concur that the cold air does quite a number on a radiated throat. There is still such tender thin tissue back there at your husband's stage of recovery, he will have to sip and sip in any situation where the air is dry. Yes, I agree that air conditioning has the same effect (ouch). I keep the mist machine on at night and keep the house well humidified during the day. For those who live in winter-lands we have to guard our throats in cold and dry conditions. Even when visiting folks..I sometimes have to ask for fluids because it doesn't occur to them that because I am not drinking alcohol that I don't need anything to drink. Like most of us, your hubby probably goes nowhere without a couple of bottles of water. We paddle our own canoe right. Godspeed you two in your recovery, Fran
SCC Base of tongue diag. April 04 Stage IV, mets to rt. neck multiple nodes 35 rads+8 boosts First recurrence Jan05. Rt.rad neck dissection Feb02/05. Recurred with bone mets in neck July 05. Committed to survival with dignity.
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#56065 01-13-2005 08:35 AM | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 90 Senior Member (75+ posts) | OP Senior Member (75+ posts) Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 90 | Thank you for responding and answering my question! This forum is fantastic. Little did we know what going into the cold weather would cause. Fran you are so right about the water bottles, they are now extensions of my hubby's hands. Doesn't go anywhere without them! His throat is feeling a little better, I guess it's just going to take time. Thanks again to all of you!
Shelley
Caregiver to husband, Ron. Throat cancer, Stage II. No Chemo or Surgery. Completed 35 Radiation Treatments in November 2004.
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#56066 01-13-2005 01:27 PM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 94 Senior Member (75+ posts) | Senior Member (75+ posts) Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 94 | Shelly,
I don't know for sure if it was the recent course of 40 hyperbaric oxygen treatments or just the passage of time, but I've found that I haven't needed to carry the water bottle(s) so much in recent weeks. Then, last Saturday, I got on a plane from Seattle to New York. Boy, am I glad I took water with me on the plane!
Ken
SCCA T2N1M0 diagnosed 11/02, radical neck dissection, 7 weeks radiation, 6 surgeries to deal with osteonecrosis, 10 weeks hyperbaric oxygen. "Live strong. Laugh often."
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#56067 01-13-2005 06:18 PM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10 Member | Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10 | Shelly,
I found the most painful time was after treatment was over. Which I was not expecting at all. I thought I did so well during treatment. I finished radiation and chemo right before Memorial Day of last year and continued to need a pain patch thru July. And as for the dryness it helps to sleep with a warm air humidifier in the room and NO ceiling fan on(it just drys the throat even more) And of course water, water, water. I find green tea very soothing, warm not hot of course. And the cold weather is a killer on the throat due to the dryness. Again, water!!!
Be patient it gets better weekly. Carol | | |
#56068 01-13-2005 07:59 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 541 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 541 | I agree with Carol that cold and dry weather is a killer to our throat. The weather has been very cold and dry in Hong Kong these days and my voice becomes very hoarse. Sometimes I have difficulty talking in the lessons. Drinking water doesn't help much and yesterday morning, when there was rain, I felt so much better talking with people. Perhaps a humidifier is what I need. Air in the plane is exceptionally dry and the only thing one can do is to sip more water throughout the journey. Be careful with the air pressure too when the plane is descending. I have never had so much discomfort as I was in the plane about to land when I returned from a 1 hour flight from China during Christmas. My ears were in such pain that I thought the ear drums were about to burst. I didn't experience that when I travelled to Singapore in July. The flight took more than 3 hours. So sometimes you don't really know what to or what not to expect.Even the same person experiencs something different on similar occasions.
Karen.
Karen stage 4B (T3N3M0)tonsil cancer diagnosed in 9/2001.Concurrent chemo-radiation treatment ( XRT x 48 /Cisplatin x 4) ended in 12/01. Have been in remission ever since.
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