#41427 06-21-2007 06:57 AM | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 718 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 718 | Awhile back, I read an article on this site about Amifostine as a preventative measure for xerostomia. I spoke to my husband's RO about it, and he dismissed the idea. I don't remember why. So, I plan to bring it up again at tomorrow's appointment.
I'm curious, for those of you who have finished radiation, do you think the Amifostine helped you? I'm wondering how hard I should push for this in light of the fact that they have told us there will be long term xerostomia.
Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Margaret ---------- C/G: Husband, 48 (at time of dx) Dx 5/18/07 SCC, BOT, lymph node involvement. T1N2BM0. (Stage 4a, G2/3) Tx 6/18 - 8/3/07, IMRT x 33 Cisplatin x3 (stopped after 1st dose due to hearing issues). Weekly Erbitux started 6/27/07 completed 8/6/07.
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#41428 06-21-2007 10:50 AM | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 90 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 90 | Margaret, My father was able to take the Amifostine shots until the last 3 days of radiation. He had a reaction and they stopped the shots at that point. (The reaction was a rash on both arms) He was able to tolerate it alot more than most of the people you read about on this website. He did drink as much water as he could prior to the shots as hydration is really important. Towards the end of course it was difficult to drink water. His dentist tells him that he thinks he has less xerostomia than you would expect for someone who has went through this treatment but of course my Dad says his mouth is really dry. He still 13 months out of treatment sleeps with a humdifier and carrys a bottle of water with him most times but it is hard to know where he would be without the amifostine. I will tell you this that his RO dismissed the ideal as well and it was his MO that highly recommended the shots. Also the RO's nurse was highly supportive of them and said we should at least give them a try. I tried to do as much research on the amifostine as I could and from what I discovered it was at least worth a shot if you could tolerate them. Good luck to you and your husband Margaret and please feel free to email me if you have any other question I would be happy to let you know my father's experience. Kim
Caregiver to Father:Stage III unknown primary; modified left side neck dissection 2/2006; 8 wk trmts of Erbitux 3/2006 with-37 radition treatments; 11.2010; biopsy of base of tongue results questionable. 9.2013 tumor on left side of tongue; squamous cell cancer. 10.2.2013 Hemiglossectomy(1/2 tongue removed) with reconstruct tongue using left thigh tissue;surgery included IORT. 25 additional IMRT radiation trtmts & 5 wks/chemo. Carbo & Taxol combo.NPO;100% PEG depend;aspiration pneumonia 3/2014
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#41429 06-21-2007 11:08 AM | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16 Member | Member Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16 | My husband took the shots too and after 2 wks had a rash so they stopped them shortly after that he ended up in the hospital. When he got out we tried the shots again without anymore rash problems. They all tried to tell us it was from the Amifostine but I could not find anything listing a rash as a side effect but there was one listed for the chemo he was taking. We opted out of chemo so he could stay on the Amifostine. He is now 3 wks post radiation. It was worth the shots since he does have some taste buds his dry mouth I'm sure would be worse too without it.
Caregiver to husband-Tongue and 1 node involvement.
CG to Larry 61, 1st Dx 8-18-06 TlNoMo SCC Right Lateral Tongue- second Dx 1-25-07 Right neck dissection-T1N1Mo. Treatment started 3-20-07 Radiation & Etyhol Finish 5-31-07
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#41430 06-21-2007 02:43 PM | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 378 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 378 | My husband completed the entire series of amifostine last year and definitely thinks it helped him have less dry mouth and less thick mucositis. He took claritan to prevent allergic reactions and zofran to prevent nausea before each shot and drank ALL the water that they told him too - really important. I think it's worth it. Regards JoAnne
JoAnne - Caregiver to husband, cancer rt. tonsil, mets to soft palate, BOT, 7 lymph nodes - T3N2BM0, stage 4. Robotic assisted surgery, radical neck dissection 2/06; 30 IMTX treatments and 4 cycles of cisplatin completed June 06.
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#41431 06-22-2007 02:46 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 176 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 176 | I had a bad raection after 7 treatments and was taken off. My saliva is back to about 85-90%. My docs attribute this success to the amil. Almost everyone gets the rash.
6-05, Left Tonsil-T1N2bM0 stageIVA, chemo(Cisplatin), radiation(6660cGy), neck disection, no PEG. HPV negative. (Doc suspects posit) 3-9-09 last of 30 HBO treatments.
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#41432 06-22-2007 04:06 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 168 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 168 | I too suggested this to my RO but he dismissed it. Why if this is helping are the ROs dismissing it? I would like to have taken all the opportuniies available to have as much saliva as possible. Does anyone know or have an idea as to why the ROs dismiss this?
Lee, age 33, stage 4a, T2N2bM0, Tumor left tonsil (removed), 2 left side nodes removed (poorly differientiatied)total of 3 nodes involved. Treatment IMRT x33/ 2x Cysplatin completed. Good Health and Good Help to you. Lee
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#41433 06-22-2007 06:50 AM | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 718 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 718 | Thank you, all, this is great feedback. Based on what I read here, I am going to keep trying to get him on the amifostine.
We meet with his RO later today and his MO on Monday. I'm getting the sense from the postings that I might be more successful waiting to talk to the MO.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with me, Margaret ---------- C/G: Husband, 48 (at time of dx) Dx 5/18/07 SCC, BOT, lymph node involvement. T1N2BM0. (Stage 4a, G2/3) Tx 6/18 - 8/3/07, IMRT x 33 Cisplatin x3 (stopped after 1st dose due to hearing issues). Weekly Erbitux started 6/27/07 completed 8/6/07.
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#41434 06-22-2007 08:14 AM | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 622 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2007 Posts: 622 Likes: 1 | Hi Margaret
The RO told me that it is a 50/50 shot as to whether it works or not. I had it for 6 of my 7 weeks of IMRT treatment, and I am now battling the dry mouth, so I can not imagine if I had not had the shots.
The worst side effect I had at first was the headache's. Then we had to stop it at 6 weeks due to the intense nausea.
I'd ask again!
Kevin 18 YEAR SURVIVOR SCC Tongue (T3N0M0) diag 06/2006. No evidence of disease 2010 Another PET 12-2014 pre-HBO, still N.E.D.
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#41435 06-22-2007 09:30 AM | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 666 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2007 Posts: 666 | You need to be careful and not compare apple with oranges. Not all IMRT radiation schedules are equal. In some cases one or both partoid glads are spared. If you talk the RO you should find out exactly how much of the maximum dose the gland(s) are getting (this and many other things should be charted in the IMRT plan anyway). If they are getting a low enough dose one or the other will survive/recover. This may be one reason, why some of the RO dismiss amifostine, the other may be side effects. Talk to the RO! a) are the glands likely to be non functional due to the radiation dose? b) with the radiation dose they are getting could amifostine be beneficial. c) if they are getting the full radiation dose IS amifostine still expected to be beneficial
Markus
Partial glossectomy (25%) anterior tongue. 4/6/07/. IMRT start @5/24/07 (3x) Erbitux start/end@ 5/24/07. IMRT wider field (30x) start 6/5/07. Weekly cisplatin (2x30mg/m2), then weekly carbo- (5x180mg/m2). End of Tx 19 July 07.
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