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#39451 11-17-2005 04:26 PM
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Hello - I have not posted before but have been reading from the site on almost a daily basis since I found it. You are a truly wonderful, knowledgable and resourceful group of people. Thank you for all the information and insights you have so generously provided.


My husband has stage III/IV of the left tonsil and is just past the halfway mark of his scheduled treatment - 35 doses IMRT and 3 chemo cycles (cisplatin). I know from reading the postings of others that there is a whole litany of potential problems that can rear their head during treatment. However, I haven't really seen much about heartburn. My husband had his second cycle of cisplatin on Tuesday afternoon ( just over 2 days ago) and has been having terrible heartburn all day.

He has a feeding tube and has only been able to take 3 cans today because he feels so uncomfortable.

Has anyone experienced heartburn related to some aspect of the treatment? If so, did you find a way to relieve it?

Thanks a lot.
Mary


Caregiver for John SCC left tonsil Stage III/IV dx Sept 05, tx started Oct 21/05 -IMRT 35, cisplatin 3 X 100mg/m2;completed Dec08/05.
#39452 11-17-2005 04:59 PM
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Hi, Mary --

I too had some problems with heartburn and chemo, though I had another platinum drub, carboplatin. Turns out it wasn't the chemo but the steroid that they gave me concurrently that was causing it and I was prescribed protonix. Worked like a charm!

Talk to the medical oncologist. It is a pretty common side effect.

Tim


SCC Right Tonsil, T2N1M0, Dx 12/04, Tx 40 radiation (180 rad), 8 Chemo (carbo), Tx ended 3/15/05, Selective neck dissection 5/24/05, 22 nodes, 4 levels, no evidence of metastatic malignancy!!! :-)
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He should be on industrial stregnth Pepcid AC (Famotidine or some other antacid) as Cisplatin does a number on the stomach lining.


Gary Allsebrook
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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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#39454 11-18-2005 12:36 AM
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Thanks a lot for your feedback Tim and Gary. It's very helpful.

Mary


Caregiver for John SCC left tonsil Stage III/IV dx Sept 05, tx started Oct 21/05 -IMRT 35, cisplatin 3 X 100mg/m2;completed Dec08/05.
#39455 11-18-2005 01:52 AM
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Another drug to try is metroclopramide (Reglan) -- it would have to be delivered by tube so not sure if there is a liquid form or if it can be ground up -- this moves materials through the stomach faster. My husband had terrible heartburn at the beginning of treatment (possibly reltade to the insertion of the PEG or perhaps,his body's reaction to the chemo) but the Reglan helped. He also used Prevacid before eating a few times (he ate all the way through). Also, if your husband is taking Oxycodone, that causes a lot of heartburn and to avoid it, my husband started using the Duragesic patch so he could continue to swallow and eat despite a very sore throat and mouth (mucositis).

Re the latter, try to encourage your husband to swallow (even if only water) during the treatment as his throat and tongue muscles can lose their ability to work due to disuse, as well as to radiation damage. Admittedly, this may have to wait until you cure the heartburn but then he should try. Our ENT and RO said continuing to swallow is very important, not to hesitate to use pain meds as needed to get past the pain.

Gail

---------------------------------------------------------------Husabnd Barry 66, dx SCC right tonsil, base of tongue, 2 nodes 6/21, stage III/IV, HPV-16+ tumor, tonsillectomy 6/21 (no other surgery), treatment at Johns Hopkins started 8/10, 33x tomo-IMRT radiation (66 gy), 7x carboplatin, completed 9/28. Initial exams show good response, full exam will be 12/6.


CG to husband Barry, dx. 7/21/05, age 66, SCC rgt. tonsil, BOT, 2 nodes (stg. IV), HPV+, tonsillectomy, 7x carboplatin, 35x tomoTherapy IMRT w/ Ethyol @ Johns Hopkins, thru treatment 9/28/05, HPV vaccine trial 12/06-present. Looking good!
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Mary, sorry that John is experienceing that discomfort. When I had my PEG put in, my gastro doc asked what chemo drug I would be getting. When I told him it was Cisplatin, he wrote me a script for Carafate in a suspension. I took it four times a day throughout the course of treatment and never had one single onset of indigestion.

Good luck to both you and John. I hope you find some relief for him soon.

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#39457 11-18-2005 03:48 AM
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Carafate also works at treating lip sores from dry lips from the rad if you swab it on every few hours--I used it for both indigestion/heartburn and the lip sores. I'm pretty sure I got Reglan --but I was thinking it wsa through my port (via IV) on the days I got chemo.


SCC(T2N0M0) part.glossectomy & neck dissect 2/9/05 & 2/25/05.33 IMRT(66 Gy),2 Cisplatin ended 06/03/05.Stage I breast cancer treated 2/05-11/05.Surgery to remove esophageal stricture 07/06, still having dilatations to keep esophagus open.Dysphagia. "When you're going through hell, keep going"
#39458 11-18-2005 12:09 PM
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Thank you everyone for your interest and your terrific practical suggestions! Because of your responses I was able to encourage John to phone the doctor today and ask about getting help for something he thought he just had to endure. He was given a prescription for ranitidine, something that reduces the production of excess stomach acid and it did the trick. Some of our drugs may be different in Canada- not sure.

anyway. Thanks so much.
Mary


Caregiver for John SCC left tonsil Stage III/IV dx Sept 05, tx started Oct 21/05 -IMRT 35, cisplatin 3 X 100mg/m2;completed Dec08/05.
#39459 11-21-2005 05:46 PM
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Hi Mary...

John is fortunate to have you on his side and I am glad he found relief with the Rentidine. Hopefully it will be a good long term solution.

I wanted to just add to the pile here and let you know that your husband is not alone with the heartburn. I too developed it about mid-treatment.

Although I think it may have started from the Cisplat, more and more I think it is from the radiation now.

I still have DAILY bouts of heartburn, and I used to almost never ever get it before.

Usually in the mid to late afternoon, and my diet has zero impact.

The only thing that works (worked) for me long-term was liquid Zantec. You might look into it as an alternate. It is easy to take via the PEG and offers nearly immediate relief, even for slight upset (sour) stomache in some cases.

Since I am not a Dr, I recommend that you and/or John discuss this and remember that there is no such thing as a stupid question of them.

He doesn't NEED to suffer ALL the effects to get the affects of treatment. If he is sick to his stomache, has heartburn, dry mouth or other side effects, be sure he let's his care team know since they can mitigate many of them smile

Good luck and please keep us posted.


Michael | 53 | SCC | Right Tonsil | Dx'd: 06-10-05 | STAGE IV, T3N2bM0 | 3 Nodes R Side | MRND & Tonsillectomy 06/29/05 Dr Fee/Stanford | 8 wks Rad/Chemo startd August 15th @ MSKCC, NY | Tx Ended: 09-27-05 | Cancer free at 16+ Yrs | After-Effects of Tx: Thyroid function is 0, ok salivary function, tinnitus, some scars, neck/face asymmetry, gastric reflux. 2017 dysphagia, L Carotid stent / 2019, R Carotid occluded not eligible for stent.2022 dental issues, possible ORN, memory/recall challenges.
#39460 11-24-2005 09:23 PM
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Quite a while prior to discovery of my tongue tumor, I was starting to suffer from GERD aka heartburn and was doing the usual recommended things like not eating or snacking for a few hours before bedtime and also putting a couple of 2x4s under the head of my bed so my head end was higher (actually, I live in a small RV, so I put the 2x4s under one wheel to get the same effect).

Interestingly, on GP Doc's advice I went on a low-carb diet to reduce cholesterol (it did) and I noticed that my GERD also went away, but if I slipped off the low-carb diet, the GERD came back immediately -- I happened to be talking to another RV couple, one of whom had recently been diagnosed with diabetes, so they both went on low-carb diet -- The other person, a GERD sufferer, also noticed that the GERD went away as long as he stuck to the diet.

I haven't yet gotten into the nitty-gritty details of the various meal replacement concoctions that are available, but one of my goals will be to choose ones with lower carb percentages. Food for thought.

Pete


Age 67 1/2
Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05
Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08
Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08
Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06
Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08)
Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08)
On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
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