#22365 02-22-2007 02:45 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member | OP Member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 | Hello, Like I said I'm 2 months out from radiation. I'm stage 4 SCC and had a tumor at the base of my tongue. I get a pet scan in a couple of weeks at UofM Hospital Michigan. My throat is healing but still sore. It seems I'm getting fluid collecting in my neck from damage to the lymph nodes in my neck. Does that absorb itself or do I need something done about it? I have thick mucus at the back of my throat (where the tumor was) does that dry up at some time? Is that just part of the healing? I'm sure I'll have more questions, but I'm glad I found this board...thank you all. Bob
58 yrs old. Stage 4 SCC base of tongue T4N2M0 no surgery chemo 7x radiation 35x completed treatments 12/20/06
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#22366 02-22-2007 02:56 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 | Bob,
You're still at the point where there's a lot of healing going on. The lymphatic drainage problems and mucus can hang around for months. Some people here have had success with physical therapy massage that's targeted at the areas of fluid buildup (if you search the site on those terms, you should find more details about this).
Dry mouth can also be a long-term issue, but the extent of it varies widely depending on the specific nature of the treatment. What are you using now for mouthwash and/or medication for dry mouth? Again, if you search this site for dry mouth, you'll find tons of posts about experiences with it.
Cathy
Tongue SCC (T2M0N0), poorly differentiated, diagnosed 3/89, partial glossectomy and neck dissection 4/89, radiation from early June to late August 1989
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#22367 02-22-2007 02:57 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | bob,
I am almost 6 months post Tx and what you have in your neck, we all call "Turkey Chin". WE have been told not to massage it and it will go away on it's own. Mine is now about 1/2 it's maximum size. The thick muscus will also go away in time. Mine is all gone now.
I made a post when I was 4 months out and I have copied it below for as well as one I did 5 months out. Hope they are helpful.
4 MONTHS OUT:
Today marks the end of the 4th month after completeing my Tx and I thought it would be useful to others to post my progress.
Taste-I have almost all my taste back. I would rate it 9 out of 10.
Hair on the back of my head-Beginning to grow back.
Weight-Lost 35 pounds and have regained 5. Not sure I want much more back.
High frequency hearing loss-Was tested at Moffitt and they confirmed permanent HF hearing loss caused by Cisplatium. MO wasn't so sure and said to wait. Either I am getting use to it or it has slightly improved.
Mental capacity-Fully recovered or I'm worse off than I think. LOL
Physical-Muscle strenght 7 out of my 10. Haven't exercised like I use to due to dry mouth.
Stamina-Am able to almost work as much as I use to. Work 9am to 7:30pm. Use to work till 9pm but I am pretty tired by 7:30. Can't keep my eyes open by 10 to 11pm.
Turkey chin-Gobble, gobble, still have it.
Dry mouth-This has been the worst side effect to deal with by far. Not in pain but in affecting quality of life. Just in the last 2 weeks I have noticed a slight change for the better. It's hard to describe but it has improved. I would rate this 9 out of 10 being the worst.
All the other side effects I was dealing with at the end of Tx went away around the 3rd week post TX. Those being: nausea, throat pain, constipation, and maybe a few that I can't even remember now.
All in all I am very pleased with my progress especially considering the way I felt at the end of my Tx and I hope that others who are currently in or recently completed Tx will find this useful.
5 MONTHS OUT:
One month ago (duh) I posted "How I am 4 months post Tx" and I didn't expect to give an update so soon but something has happened to change my mind. I will first start with the 4 month post for those that didn't see it:
Today marks the end of the 4th month after completeing my Tx and I thought it would be useful to others to post my progress.
Taste-I have almost all my taste back. I would rate it 9 out of 10.
Hair on the back of my head-Beginning to grow back.
Weight-Lost 35 pounds and have regained 5. Not sure I want much more back.
High frequency hearing loss-Was tested at Moffitt and they confirmed permanent HF hearing loss caused by Cisplatium. MO wasn't so sure and said to wait. Either I am getting use to it or it has slightly improved.
Mental capacity-Fully recovered or I'm worse off than I think. LOL
Physical-Muscle strenght 7 out of my 10. Haven't exercised like I use to due to dry mouth.
Stamina-Am able to almost work as much as I use to. Work 9am to 7:30pm. Use to work till 9pm but I am pretty tired by 7:30. Can't keep my eyes open by 10 to 11pm.
Turkey chin-Gobble, gobble, still have it.
Dry mouth-This has been the worst side effect to deal with by far. Not in pain but in affecting quality of life. Just in the last 2 weeks I have noticed a slight change for the better. It's hard to describe but it has improved. I would rate this 9 out of 10 being the worst.
All the other side effects I was dealing with at the end of Tx went away around the 3rd week post TX. Those being: nausea, throat pain, constipation, and maybe a few that I can't even remember now.
All in all I am very pleased with my progress especially considering the way I felt at the end of my Tx and I hope that others who are currently in or recently completed Tx will find this useful.
That was one month ago.
As I said I wasn't planning to followup so soon but just in the past 2 weeks something has improved with my dry mouth. I say something because it's hard to define BUT it has made a great improvement in my eating. I still sip water throughout the day but I don't wake up during the night with mouth related problems any more and my eating has taken a hugh turn for the better. I even look forward to meals now as I am beginning to try some of my old favorites that I had given up on. For instance, I ate a small thin crust pizza by myself the other day (well not all the crust) and I even ate a whole slice without having to swallow liquid. I find myself eating almost like normal, I mean taking 2 or 3 fork fulls before I feel the urge to drink. I don't think my taste has improved but that dry mouth crap has.
It's really hard to describe but something has happened and I wanted to share this improvement so that others may be on the lookout.
I don't plan on a 6 Months out post as things haven't changed much in the last month.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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