#19372 01-18-2006 10:12 AM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5 Member | OP Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5 | Hello everyone
My name is Frankie, 55 yo and female, diagnoised with squamous cell cancer of the tongue back in late Sept. 2005 I had the small lesion removed in October and more tisse removed in Nov. for a total of 5mm of surrounding tissue removed. I am now on my 11th day of radiation. My doc and the patholgy says they got all the cancer with the surgery, but there are some remaining pre-cancerous cells on and in the tissue of my tongue. So I have 11 treatments down and 21 to go. I do take the Amofistine shots in my tummy each day as I have read on here many of you do also. It makes me really sick. I have switched from the compazine to Kytril. And I still get sick. If anyone has had any luck on having a non-nausea day on something else please let me know cause I want to try it. I am losing all my taste rather quickly, or rather it is being replaced with the metallic taste I get from the shots each day. Beginning to think I would be better off without the shots, at least I wouldn't be sick and have the metal mouth every morning.
So glad I found this forum. Looking forward to learning from everyone and helping out where I can too.
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#19373 01-18-2006 12:45 PM | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 | Frankie, I had a terrible time with Amifostine too. I had a couple of non-nausea days with Zoloft combined with a steroid they gave me intravenously before the Amifostine (can't rememebr what that steriod was called but it made me feel better than I had any right to).
Most days I vomited though.
I quit altogether for four days because I was so sick from the second chemo I couldn't imagine getting the Amifostine too but then my rad oncologist encouraged me to go to an every other day treatment which I stuck out until the end.
Nelie
SCC(T2N0M0) part.glossectomy & neck dissect 2/9/05 & 2/25/05.33 IMRT(66 Gy),2 Cisplatin ended 06/03/05.Stage I breast cancer treated 2/05-11/05.Surgery to remove esophageal stricture 07/06, still having dilatations to keep esophagus open.Dysphagia. "When you're going through hell, keep going"
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#19374 01-18-2006 02:29 PM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 | Frankie...welcome to this spot.
There are some "low-tech" things you could try. My husband was very sick from the Amifostine, but found a couple of things that helped - beyond, of course, the anti-nausea drugs the docs prescribed. One thing he found helpful was breathing peppermint after the treatment with Amifostine. Another was applying pressure to points on his wrist suggested by an accupuncturist. I know these sound a little lame, but they really did help him. He also insisted on getting out of the hospital and into some fresh air between the injections and the radiation. I don't know - sometimes simple little steps can make a difference.
We're all pulling for you. Anital
Husband Dx 12/02 Stage 4 Tonsil Cancer T1N2bM0; surgery, radiation, chemo 1/03 - 4/03.
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#19375 01-18-2006 02:33 PM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 | I should add that my husband managed to make it through 36 days of Amifostine - combined with radiation and chemo, using some of these simple ideas (that, plus being very bull-headed, which turns out is a good thing during the difficult days of treatment).
Anita
Husband Dx 12/02 Stage 4 Tonsil Cancer T1N2bM0; surgery, radiation, chemo 1/03 - 4/03.
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#19376 01-18-2006 07:28 PM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 4 Member | Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 4 | HI ALL HAVE LARYNX MASS 2-3 CMS AND LYMPHNODE 2-3 CMS AM CURRENTLY 5WKS INTO 7 CHEMO AND 22 RAD TREAT OUT OF 36-46 MY QUESTION IS HAS ANYONE SEEN BENEFITS FROM ETHYOL SHOTS I HAVE HAD 2 DAYS ON THE FLOOR NAUSEA IN THOSE 5WKS AM WONDERING IF I SHOULD CONTINUE ANY FEED BACK WOULD HELP
THANKS ANDY
andreas h ligon
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#19377 01-19-2006 05:34 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 417 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 417 |
Stage 3, T3,N1,M0,SCC, Base of Tongue. No Surgery, Radiationx39, Chemo, Taxol & Carboplatin Weekly 8 Treatments 2004. Age 60. Recurrence 2/06, SCC, Chest & Neck (Sub clavean), Remission 8/06. Recurrence SCC 12/10/06 Chest.
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#19378 01-19-2006 10:01 AM | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 31 | Frankie, my husband is currently going through radiation. He has had 19 of 39 treatments. He is also getting the ethyol injections. He has been very sick also. He lost 8 lbs. in 2 days. He only had 1 shot this week. He is giving himself a break and will try again on Monday. His doctor changed his meds from compozine to Zofran and also gave him a steroid to take 1 hour before injection. I will let you know how that works out.
Rhonda - Caregiver to husband Leon. Diagnosed with SCC of right tonsil, 1 lymph node. Right tonsilectomy 10/3/05 - Right neck dissectomy 10/12/05, completed 39 IMRT treatments 2/23/06.
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#19379 01-20-2006 05:11 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 | Gary Patient Advocate (300+ posts) Member # 457
posted January 20, 2006 05:03 PM
Frankie the "metal mouth could be the chemo as well, but few here have been able to tolerate Amofostine. You're going to lose your sense of taste from either the radiation and/or chemo temporarily.
Zofran is one of the best antinausea drugs, I used compazine suppositories when I was throwing up too much to keep pills down (and I just had Cisplatin). I also smelled like a chemical waste dump for a few weeks after the chemo was over.
If you are getting IMRT I would ask them directly, what the amount of benefit you will achieve from Amofostine. I didn't have it and have quite well recovered salivary function. Standard radiation (XRT) is another matter.
-------------------- Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm tumor, right tonsil, Stage III/IV, T3N0M0 Tx 1/28/03 through 3/19/03, Cisplatin Chemo x2, IMRT x33(81cGy) Posts: 1582 | From: San Francisco CA | Registered: Nov 2002 | IP: Logged
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#19380 01-26-2006 06:21 AM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5 Member | OP Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5 | Thanks for alll the helpful hints. My shots are on hold for the rest of the week and I have been feeling so much better. I am not getting any chemo and I am getting IMRT. I actually quit the shots due to a rare side effect I am having now. Extreme bone and joint pain that occurs about 1 hour after the injection and last for up to 12 hours. Anyone else ever have this problem ? I am going to post this in symtoms also and see if I get any feed back.
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#19381 01-26-2006 10:30 AM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 72 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 72 | Frankie - Severe nausea is the worst! My husband, Kenny, had to deal with severe nausea from week 1 of his treatments. Nothing seemed to work. The compazine suppositories worked a little. Kenny was finally hospitalized with critical dehydration. He ended up with a J-Tube (inserted into his small intesine instead of his stomach). He ended up with a combination of drugs to manage the nausea - compazine + adivan. Adivan is an anti-anxiety drug that has the benefit of helping nausea. You might ask your docs about trying multiple drugs to get through the worst of the nausea.
Carol R - caregiver to hubby Ken. Stage 4, SCC, BOT. 6/05 dx, 9/25/05 last tx, 5/06 stroke. Four years cancer free! Still taking things 1 day at a time.
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