| Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 | Hi, Everyone, I haven't updated for awhile, so thought that I would let you know what has been happening with me. I had 11+ hour surgery on April 9, 2014 which included removal of the base of my tongue, my epiglottis, and a neck dissection. They were able to save my vocal chords, so I have been working with a speech therapist, and while I am sometimes difficult to understand, I am speaking with the aid of a Passey-Muir valve. I am totally tubefed and have a permanent trach. I have also been doing some "dry" swallowing exercises. Apparently the next step would be a swallow study. I saw my surgeon yesterday (2/27) and he scoped me and everything looks good. I had a PET scan in November and that looked good, too. Has anyone here had a swallow study, and how did it go?
Female, nonsmoker, 70, diag. 5/09 after tongue biopsy: stage IV. Left hemi-gloss. and left selec. neck disec. 30 lymph nodes removed May 20. Over 7 weeks daily rads. with three chemo. PEG removed 12/4/09 Am eating mostly soft foods. Back to work 11/09 Retired 4/1/11. 7 clear scans! Port out 9/11. 2/13. It's back: base of tongue, very invasive surgery involving lifestyle changes. 2/14: Now speaking w/Passey-Muir valve. Considering a swallow study. Grateful to be alive.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | John has just had a swallowing test. The speech path was excellent. We started off with a detailed interview on what John can do/can't do, and his goals. Then she manually checked John's swallowing as he was drinking some water. She then made him swallow food of different sizes and consistencies but coated with barium so that it would show up on the x-ray. We were surprised that John could swallow a piece of bread but not a capsule (it ended up in his sinus). Then the speech path reviewed the video with us and as she went along, gave him more tips on what he should do when swallowing. The atmosphere was relaxed and the speech path was really friendly.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 | Thanks, Gloria. My speech guy told me that they would first try pudding, then honey, then nectar, then finally a thin liquid like water. They would wait after each step to see how I would tolerate each item. It surprised me that they would start with the thicker items first. Since I don't have an epiglottis, and my tongue doesn't work very well, it will be interesting to say the least.
Female, nonsmoker, 70, diag. 5/09 after tongue biopsy: stage IV. Left hemi-gloss. and left selec. neck disec. 30 lymph nodes removed May 20. Over 7 weeks daily rads. with three chemo. PEG removed 12/4/09 Am eating mostly soft foods. Back to work 11/09 Retired 4/1/11. 7 clear scans! Port out 9/11. 2/13. It's back: base of tongue, very invasive surgery involving lifestyle changes. 2/14: Now speaking w/Passey-Muir valve. Considering a swallow study. Grateful to be alive.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | zengalib, I hope things work out. it sounds like things have been rough. I wish you the best.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 | They start with thicker items as these are least likely to "leak" down Into your lungs. Thinner liquids easily run down the path of least resistance into the lungs, especially if you dont have an epiglottis. The Epiglottis is what closes to protect the lungs from food and fluids. I imagine this will be quite a feat to swallow and not aspirate. Perhaps the SLT has some swallowing techniques to teach you to prevent this from happening. I hope this goes well for you and that you are able to restart swallowing. Tammy
Caregiver/advocate to Husband Kris age 59@ diagnosis DX Dec '10 SCC BOT T4aN2bM0 HPV+ve.Cisplatin x3 35 IMRT. PET 6/11 clear. R) level 2-4 neck dissection 8/1/11 to remove residual node - necrotic with NED Feb '12 Ca back.. 3/8/12 total glossectomy/laryngectomy/bilat neck dissection/partial pharyngectomy etc. clear margins. All nodes negative for disease. PEG in. March 2017 - 5 years disease free. Woohoo!
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 383 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 383 | Yes, Best Wishes with your testing! I had swallow test post surgery and immediately was scheduled for a PEG Tube as I failed it miserably! I was getting a tube prior to starting radiation/chemo so this just pushed it up quicker. Issues are a small path for things to travel, some paralyzed areas, and nerves controlling soft palate were wrapped up in tumor and ended up being sacrificed, all creating pooling in the area where wind pipe closes off. Will work on these issues after treatment is wrapped up. I'm a hard head so I am still challenging myself and trying to eat at least a little bit every day, being cautious not to aspirate, and helping to keep these muscles working! The pathologist will show you the scans/video and walk you through techniques to improve, very interesting to view. Best of Luck zengalib! Keep us up to speed.
SCC right side BOT/FOM; DX 1-25-06; Neck dissection/25% of tongue removed 2-17-06. Stage 2 Recurrence 7-06: IMRTX35 & 3X Cisplatin ended 10-18-06. Tumor found 03/18/13; Partial Glossectomy 03/28/13 left lateral tongue. Nov. 2014; headaches,lump on left side of throat. Radical Neck Dissection 12-17-14; Tumor into nerves/jugular; Surgery successful, IMRTX30 & 7X Erbotux. Scan 06-03-15; NED! 06-02-16; Mets to left Humerus bone and lesion on lungs-here We go again! Never, Ever Give Up!
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | Zengalib, have you been doing dry swallows to keep the swallowing muscles working? Having observed John for more than two years, I would say that even if you can swallow just a little (of whatever consistency you can manage), it would be worth it. To try swallowing in a hospital setting is probably the best. Wishing you the best of luck. Please keep us posted.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | Best of luck hon... you are a trooper in a big way... and the ultimate definition of survivor.
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Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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