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Cancer is scary. . . doctors arguing whether the margins were clear is scarier. The doctor is taking my case to both local tumor boards. Glad he is thorough, terrified that it is needed.

Just saying, this is scary.

My scans came back clear though, yay!

Kristen


Surgery 5/31/13
Tongue lesion, right side
SCC, HPV+, poorly differentiated
T1N0 based on biopsy and scan
Selective neck dissection 8/27/13, clear nodes
12/2/13 follow-up with concerns
12/3/13 biopsy, surgery, cancer returned
1/8/14 Port installed
PEG installed
Chemo and rads
2/14/14 halfway through carboplatin/taxotere and rads
March '14, Tx done, port out w/ complications, PEG out in June
2017: probable trigeminal neuralgia
Fall 2017: HBOT
Jan 18: oral surgery
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If the margins are that close rads and chemo should be on the table. Hugs


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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Oddly, the scary aggressive chemo doc says chemo won't be needed. I think they are debating what rads and whether to go back and do the neck thing that sounds so scary. It seems the pathologist did a lousy report. Don't they get that this stuff matters? Ack!

At least hanging out here has given me a better understanding of what they are not telling me. Learning to read between the lines.

Kristen


Surgery 5/31/13
Tongue lesion, right side
SCC, HPV+, poorly differentiated
T1N0 based on biopsy and scan
Selective neck dissection 8/27/13, clear nodes
12/2/13 follow-up with concerns
12/3/13 biopsy, surgery, cancer returned
1/8/14 Port installed
PEG installed
Chemo and rads
2/14/14 halfway through carboplatin/taxotere and rads
March '14, Tx done, port out w/ complications, PEG out in June
2017: probable trigeminal neuralgia
Fall 2017: HBOT
Jan 18: oral surgery
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There is debate with some what constitutes clear margins, I think I cm for tongue, and 5mm, maybe for others, but also other factors are taken into consideration like the histology of the tumor, dysplasia, and may be factoring radiation, it's extent, and others. Good luck.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






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Kirsten -
you mentioned "whether to go back and do the neck thing that sounds so scary".
Do you mean the neck dissection? That has got to be the most dreadful name for a procedure anyone could up with if they thought about it for a month of Sundays. However, if you read some of the posts on this matter, many members recover very well from the procedure.
Arguing doctors is also disconcerting, but on the positive side, you know that are paying attention to what would be the best for you in particular. You can obtain a second opinion even in mid-treatment.

Maria


CG to husband - SCC Tonsil T1N2M0 HPV+ Never Smoker
First symptoms 7/2010, DX 12/2010
TX 40 IRMT (1.8 gy) + 10 Cetuximab
PET Scans 6/2011 + 3/2012 clear, 5 year physical exam clear; chest CT's clear of cancer. On thyroid pills. Life is good.
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Neck dissection is okay - compared to everything else its a piece of cake. Not kidding - been there done that and believe me -you get swelling, stitches, and drains for a few days. Pain is minimal smile they cut the nerves - you're numb usually afterwards. Also the swelling sticks around and therapy on the arm and shoulder is a should but compared to everything else VERY DOABLE if there is any question about it being in the nodes etc... I'd be there with bells on saying take them ALL smile particularly If its non HPV SCC. Hugs!

Last edited by Cheryld; 06-23-2013 07:18 AM.

Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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I just want to add to what has already been said. To me, my neck dissection and glossectomy was the easiest part of my treatment. I could have gone back to work in a month if that's all I had to have done. It was the radiation that really did a number on me.


Female, nonsmoker, 70, diag. 5/09 after tongue biopsy: stage IV. Left hemi-gloss. and left selec. neck disec. 30 lymph nodes removed May 20. Over 7 weeks daily rads. with three chemo. PEG removed 12/4/09 Am eating mostly soft foods. Back to work 11/09 Retired 4/1/11. 7 clear scans! Port out 9/11. 2/13. It's back: base of tongue, very invasive
surgery involving lifestyle changes. 2/14: Now speaking w/Passey-Muir valve. Considering a swallow study. Grateful to be alive.
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Kristen,

I'm glad you are seeking a second opinion. It would be a good idea to have your pathology slides reviewed also. I learned the hard way that not all pathologist are created equal!

Wishing you the best!


Susan

SCC R-Lateral tongue, T1N0M0
Age 47 at Dx, non-smoker, casual drinker, HPV-
Surgery: June 2005
RT: Feb-Apr 2006
HBOT: 45 in 2008; 30 in 2013; 30 in 2022 -> Total 105!
Recurrence/Surgeries: Jan & Apr 2010
Biopsy 2/2011: Moderate dysplasia
Surgery 4/2011: Mild dysplasia
Dental issues: 2013-2022 (ORN)

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