| Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 80 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 80 | HI All - I am in my 4th week of treatment and will be having a PEG tube put in on Friday as my food/fluid intake is greatly decreasing. Since the tube is goind in on Friday, my RO is recommending taking a few days off from radiation - Friday, Monday and Tuesday.
Has anyone else had to take 'breaks' from treatment? I am concerned about interrupting the effectiveness of continued treatment (though my treatment is on 5x per week, no Saturdays or Sundays).
Thanks, Nanchy
Nancy Age 56 at diagnosis Neck Lymph node removed 11/2012 Tonsillectomy perfomed 12/2012 - identified as primary SCC Left Tonsil with Left Node involvement, DX 12/2012 RX started 1/29/2013, finished 3/23/2013; Daily IMRT (35 Sessions) Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin (6 weeks) PEG placed after week 4 (3/1/2013) PEG removed 6 1/2 months later (8/12/2013) | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 | Hi Nancy,if at all possible I would not take a break fom the radiation. Having a PEG inserted is a fairly minor procedure and you should be well straight after it. Is there another reason your RO thinks you take a few days off. Tammy
Caregiver/advocate to Husband Kris age 59@ diagnosis DX Dec '10 SCC BOT T4aN2bM0 HPV+ve.Cisplatin x3 35 IMRT. PET 6/11 clear. R) level 2-4 neck dissection 8/1/11 to remove residual node - necrotic with NED Feb '12 Ca back.. 3/8/12 total glossectomy/laryngectomy/bilat neck dissection/partial pharyngectomy etc. clear margins. All nodes negative for disease. PEG in. March 2017 - 5 years disease free. Woohoo!
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | It's best not to stop, but sometimes it is necessary. My last treatment I had a five day break, due to hurricane Sandy shutting down the hospital. Two days were made up by going for a 6th day. I missed two treatments due to being hospitalized for a blood transfusion. These, and the rest of thd missed days were added at the end, which your RO may do the same. Interrupting treatment gives cancer cells a chance to regenerate. They could put a nasal tube in instead, if for a short duration like 6 weeks, which may involve no days lost. I read of radiation stoppage to be the equivalent of a 1 percent reduction of overall survival, but your doctor may be saying this for good reasons. Good luck with everything.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 | Listen to your doctor. I had a break in radiation because my neck was so badly burned. I have had nothing but clear scans in 3 1/2 years. It is probably best not to take a break, but do what your doctor recommends. They did add a few extra radiation treatments on at the end for me.
Female, nonsmoker, 70, diag. 5/09 after tongue biopsy: stage IV. Left hemi-gloss. and left selec. neck disec. 30 lymph nodes removed May 20. Over 7 weeks daily rads. with three chemo. PEG removed 12/4/09 Am eating mostly soft foods. Back to work 11/09 Retired 4/1/11. 7 clear scans! Port out 9/11. 2/13. It's back: base of tongue, very invasive surgery involving lifestyle changes. 2/14: Now speaking w/Passey-Muir valve. Considering a swallow study. Grateful to be alive.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Im surprised your doctor is suggesting you skip some days. You may be a bit sore for a couple days after having the tube installed. Im sure your doc has their reasons for skipping days, you will probably have the days tacked onto the end.
It will take some practice to get the hang of using the tube. Please ask if you have questions and we can help give you some pointers. Even with the tube, make sure you continue to swallow water every single day. Just by taking small sips thru out the day will help your body not to forget how to swallow. Its far harder to relearn this function than you would think.
Nutrition and hydration are the key to getting thru this easier. Every single day you need to take in a minimum of 2500 calories and 48 oz of water. When you get the tube, ask for a pump too. That way you can let it run while you sleep and make it so much easier to take in enough. It really does make a big difference.
Good luck with your surgery! ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | Christmas and New Year's came right in the middle of my husband's treatment. Because of the holidays, he was given two session days three times so that the staff could have their holidays. The RO told us that he knew it wasn't the most pleasant of things to do but interruption would have an adverse effect long term. John also got a feeding tube on a Friday and went right back to radiation after the weekend. It wasn't a big deal really. Incidentally, John got the bolus feeding tube which does not necessitate the use of a pump. We rather like it as a feed takes no more than ten minutes.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 4 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 4 | Ditto what gm said. It's a very simple procedure. Don't skip any treatments unless necessary. Take care.
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Let me clarify about the pump a little better. There are 3 types of feeding methods. Gravity is where it slowly runs into the tube. Bolus is using a syringe to do the feeding and push where you push it in with a syringe. The feeding pump is a piece of equipment obtained thru a prescription from a medical supply company. It will enable the tube user to hook up a bag at night to run while they sleep or even while sitting watching tv. Some patients cant tolerate the other feeding methods. I tried every other way to do the feedings but each way was too fast and created problems for me. The only way I could do a feeding was to use the pump. Most often if a person experiences problems with using liquid nutrition it can be handled by slowing down the speed of the feeding and watering it down.
The most common types of feeding tubes are the PEG tube, J/G tube, and the Mikey button. Most members get the PEG tube which goes right into the stomach and has a 'tail' sticking out. The Mikey button is like the PEG tube but its flush to the skin and can be changed at home when needed. A J/G tube has 2 sections, one going into the stomach and the other going into the area of the intestines right past the stomach. Not as many patients get the J/G tube or Mikey button. I have experience in both the PEG tube and the J/G tube as I have used both for a few years.
Please let me know if you need any help with learning how to use the tube. It might be a good idea to ask for a visiting nurse to check on you and the feeding tube. You may be entitled to a few visits which could be very helpful in adapting.
Good luck Friday!!! ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 | Hi, Nancy.
I'm am a Mass General/Mass Eye & Ear patient. I'm not sure where you are getting your treatments, but I noticed that you also live in MA.
I finished my treatment for my second round of cancer on 10/31/12.
My second round (dx and treatment) was virtually the same as yours if you look at my signature. I had to take a couple of days off once, too. From chemo and rads. I was hospitalized due to neutropenia. I would think that if you are at a top cancer center, then you can trust your team's decision. That's what's good about the team approach. Many talented, experienced clinicians are taking good care of you.
Best of luck with the feeding tube and getting adequate water/nutrition. I many difficulties with my feeding tubes (yes, tubes). Those suckers caused me more problems that I care to remember,but that's not the norm.
Please keep us posted and hang in there with the rest of your treatments. We are here for you!
xoxo, Kerri
37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11) SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors) L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-) Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx. Various scans since rx ended are NED! Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH. 44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 80 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 80 | Hi All,
Thanks for your replies; any missed days will be added to the end so I will have the full 35 session.
Kerri - I had my surgeries (node removal and tonscillectomy) done at MEEI (by Dr. Kevin Emerick). Since I live closer to Worcester I am having my rad/chemo treatments at UMMass in Worcester. Dr. Emerick and my local MO & RO all consulted and worked the treatment plan together.
Any missed RO days from the PEG placement will be added on to the end. The tube goes in tomorrow (Friday) and if things go smoothly, I am going to request Radiation on Monday & Tuesday (rather than waiting until Wednesday as the RO suggested.) Right now my throat is quite sore - some bloody tissue and mucous, so I am hoping the PEG procedure is uneventful and doesn't further irritate my throat.
Thx, Nancy
Nancy Age 56 at diagnosis Neck Lymph node removed 11/2012 Tonsillectomy perfomed 12/2012 - identified as primary SCC Left Tonsil with Left Node involvement, DX 12/2012 RX started 1/29/2013, finished 3/23/2013; Daily IMRT (35 Sessions) Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin (6 weeks) PEG placed after week 4 (3/1/2013) PEG removed 6 1/2 months later (8/12/2013) | | |
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