| Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 27 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 27 | I am undergoing both chemo and radiation in about a month, and I didn't really get a clear answer from my MO on the percentage probability of hair loss. He did say it was possible to go entirely bald, but didn't share any percentages with me.
I'm having three treatments of chemo using Cisplatin, spaced apart every 21 days. Does anyone have experience with hair loss? Also, I've heard that there is some sort of scalp cooling device that might help prevent or at least mitigate some of the hair loss. I'd just like to hear what others have experienced with hair loss in general from this treatment.
Female, age 35 SCC Stage IV, left oral tongue, 2.8 cm T2N2bM0, HPV+, Former Smoker Dx 12/31/12 1/23/13: Hemiglossectomy (1/3 of tongue) & SND Cancer found in 4 lymph nodes, 1 with ECE post surgery 1 tx Cisplatin, 30x iMRT (6 wks) TX ended 4/15/13 | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 | I received Cisplatin and Erbitux during my radiation and the only hair I lost was on the nape of neck where the radiation passed through. Come to think of it, I don't recall ever seeing an oral cancer patient with significant hair loss.
Stage IV SCC lt lateral tongue, surgery 5/19/08 (partial gloss/upper neck dissection left side/radial free flap reconstruction) IMRT w/weekly Cisplatin & Erbitux 6/30/08, PEG 1 6/12/08 - out 7/14 (in abdominal wall, not stomach), PEG 2 7/23/08 - out 11/20/08, Tx done 8/18/08 Second SCC tumor, Stage 1, rt mobile tongue, removed 10/18/2016, right neck dissection 12/9/2016 Third SCC tumor, diagnosed, 4/19/2108, rt submandibular mass, HPV-, IMRT w/ weekly Cisplatin, 5/9 - 6/25/2018, PEG 3 5/31/2018
| | | | Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 79 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 79 | Before radiation, I had 3 rounds of Cisplatin, Taxotere and 5-fu and lost most of my hair after the first week.
Cathi
57 when diagnosed. Heavy smoker. Social drinker. Diagnosed 7/9/09 with tonsil, tongue & neck cancer. Chemo induction (Cisplatin, 5FU & Taxotere) & 35 radiation tx + 7 Carboplatin. Head and neck CAT scan on 1/15/10 shows no cancer. 1/27/12 First PET/CAT scans in 2 years - All clear!! recurrence mid-2015 OCF supporter and avid OCF CO and NJ walk attendee with worldwide friends
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| | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 | Hi Gsunshine The culprit in hairloss is usually taxotere (or any "taxol" sounding drug) for those undergoing chemotherapy as part of their treatment (ie multiple agents used together in a "cocktail"). In your case, cisplatin used in conjunction with radiation helps make the radiation work better and whilst it is a cytotoxic agent and is certainly used in "cocktails" as chemotherapy, it's use during radiation is not strictly "chemotherapy" so much as "chemoboosting". There is some hair loss associated with radiation as already stated but only where the radiation hits. Cisplatin is not generally associated with hair loss. There is always the exception to the rule but I wouldn't be racing out to buy any beanies or wigs right now
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Karen Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31 Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin) Finish Aug 27 Return to work 2 years on 3 years out Aug 27 2013 NED  Still underweight
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | I'm like Cathi, and had Taxotere, Cisplatin, and 5-FU with significant hair loss, but not totally, except for a few sprouts, which looked like my head was set on fire with scabs and few hairs, so it was shaven off, but grew back by 6 months more thin, lighter. Radiation was done as mono treatment and caused hair loss in the radiated field, especially the nape of the neck, sides. Then radiation with concurrent Taxotere and Erbitux caused hair loss in the radiated field again, and more thinning. My barber does an excellent job to cut my hair, and would not know of any loss, except for myself. I think my hair is like weed lol. Cisplatin can possibly cause some hair loss on it's own as indicated as possible "side effects" in some literature, but never heard of any significant losses, and most have a combination of treatments anyway, so it's hard for them to say which really was the cause. I don't think you have to be worried like other cancer treatments causing complete baldness. The cooling of hands, feet, head, chewing of ice is cyrotherapy to reduce side effects from certain chemo's, such as Mucocitis, hand and foot syndrome, neuropathy, and hair loss, by slowing down the uptake of the chemo in fast dividing cells.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,264 Likes: 5 | My MO told me straight up you will not lose your hair from my chemo. If you lose any it will be from the radiation. I had rads on my entire neck and half my mouth (tongue - left side) My hair thinned all the way up the left side to my crown and I lost ALL my hair from ear to ear along the back and sides. I only had cisplatin. KLO is right hair loss is likely related to taxol, and rads.
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Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Member | Member Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 | My husband had the same Cisplatin protocol (3 treatments, 21 days apart, in conjunction with 33 radiation treatments), and he didn't experience any hair loss from the chemo. He did lose all of his facial hair and the hair on the nape of his neck from radiation, though.
Husband diagnosed 10/11/12 with Stage III oral tongue SCC, T3N1M0 (HPV negative). 35 years old, non-smoker, non-drinker. Hemiglossectomy and left selective neck dissection (levels 2, 3, and 4) on 11/01/12. Chemo (Cisplatin x 3) finished 1/23/13. Radiation finished 1/28/13. | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 493 | I had cisplatin (3 "big bags") and 38 rads. I did lose my hair. My MO said that I might not, but everyone is different. I didn't go completely bald, just had some straggly pieces of hair. I didn't want to get a wig, so I wore scarves in the warm weather and berets when it got cold. I finished my treatments in August, and my hair had pretty much grown back by Frebruary. It also grew back curly, which was sort of interesting.
Female, nonsmoker, 70, diag. 5/09 after tongue biopsy: stage IV. Left hemi-gloss. and left selec. neck disec. 30 lymph nodes removed May 20. Over 7 weeks daily rads. with three chemo. PEG removed 12/4/09 Am eating mostly soft foods. Back to work 11/09 Retired 4/1/11. 7 clear scans! Port out 9/11. 2/13. It's back: base of tongue, very invasive surgery involving lifestyle changes. 2/14: Now speaking w/Passey-Muir valve. Considering a swallow study. Grateful to be alive.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,293 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,293 Likes: 1 | Interesting variety of hair experiences. I just finished round 1 of TPF induction and was going to go ahead and do a number 2 buzz cutt to just stay ahead of the loss. Maybe I won't lose the hair but still inclined to buzz it anyway :-)
Don Male, 57 - Great health except C Dec '12 DX: BOT SCC T2N2bMx, Stage 4a, HPV+, multiple nodes 1 tooth out Jan '13 2nd tooth out Tumor Board -induction TPF (3 cycles), seq CRT 4-6/2013 CRT 70gr 2x35, weekly carbo150 ended 5/29,6/4 All the details, join at http://beatdown.cognacom.com | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | MY MO discused hair loss at great lengths with me as it had been one of my big concerns. She told me cisplatin will not cause hair loss. I also had the 3 big bag method, but the 3rd bag was cancelled. I did not lose any hair. Radiation will cause some hair loss where the radiation beam exits your head. Most of us only had to deal with a small bald spot (size of a nickel or quarter). My MO explain that any chemo given which has an "X" in its name is usually going to cause hair loss. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | |
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