| Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Member | OP Member Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 | My husband starts radiation and chemo (cisplatin) next week. I'm not concerned about the cisplatin infusion but can y'all walk me through a radiation session? We've been through the sim (obviously) so he's prepared to be bolted down with the mask, but can you expand on your experiences?
Is it noisy, like a CT? Are the lights very bright? What does it feel like, for both the neck and inside the mouth? I know it's not going to hurt during the session, but does the table vibrate or anything? Weird smells or tastes during the session?
We have an ativan prescription but he's hesitant to take it. Would you recommend it for the 1st treatment, or wait until he sees how he handles it?
Thanks in advance.
Husband diagnosed 10/11/12 with Stage III oral tongue SCC, T3N1M0 (HPV negative). 35 years old, non-smoker, non-drinker. Hemiglossectomy and left selective neck dissection (levels 2, 3, and 4) on 11/01/12. Chemo (Cisplatin x 3) finished 1/23/13. Radiation finished 1/28/13. | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Other than being strapped down the sessions at first are nothing to worry about. Music can help pass the time. Most centers will play music during the sessions. Make sure you ask.
I smelled a little "burning" after my first session but didn't notice anything like that in later sessions.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 | Some noise, not too bad. It was always cold in that room but it may have been me as the pain medications slow circulation so it's harder to stay warm. I always smelled ozone, which is used a lot in the hotel business to deodorize rooms which is why I even noticed. Near the end I was just so tired every time I went in the last two weeks I slept as soon as I was strapped in.
Young Frack, SCC T4N2M0, Cisplatin,35+ rads,ND, RT Mandiblectomy w fibular free flap, facial paralysis, "He who has a "why" to live can bear with almost any "how"." -Nietzche "WARNING" PG-13 due to Sarcasm & WAY too much attitude, interact at your own risk.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | I Had to put a bathrobe or gown on, with no shirt, metals, and it was cold being in the basement, and kept cool. They asked if you wanted a blanket. Then you lay down on the slide table, the mask is out on, some get mouth stick too, and physical alignments are made..some get tattoos too, I did. Then the door is closed, and techs Leave, and monitor you by audio and video. The table is repositioned or aligned, and a scan is done. the IMRT UFO hovers around, positions itself, and then zaps you. The number of zaps depends where they are radiating in the H&N, and if bilateral sides, which I had. Took a total of 18 zaps, which was the longest time in the world, by the time I finished, I was sweating, partly due to tumor pain. I did not take Ativan or anything for other reasons. The music was the worst, so ask if you can bring your own. The zaps makes a notable humming noise, but nothing like the MRI, and is painless..at least the process. The radiation is cumulative, so the toxicities will build up, and RO will tell you how to manage them..creams, pain meds, nutrition. The techs helped me off the table since I was always dizzy, and always helped me out. Then once a week, more if needed, you will see th RO. If so equipped, they can spray your mouth a few times a week to help the Mucocitis, , and mine even hydrated you by IV infusion, a few times.
Best of luck!
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10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 | Heather - by now your husband has had a couple of days of rads. Can you tell us how he's doing?
Oh, I brought my iPod and small speakers in, since they wouldn't let me use the earbuds, and listened at first to music and then an audio book. Really helped a lot!
David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Member | OP Member Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 | He's doing well so far, thanks. The scar from his neck dissection is a bit tender and he says his neck feels "warm" but nothing too alarming yet. The dry mouth kicked in pretty much right away but we're staying on top of the Caphasol and drinking a lot of water and so far it's managable.
I asked him if he wanted to bring his iPod but he said no. He had an Ativan yesterday before radiation because yesterday was his first chemo treatment, but overall he's not claustrophobic and the machine and mask don't alarm him.
Right now the worst thing we're dealing with is, the chemo seems to have given him hiccups!! He didn't get a lot of sleep last night because of it, so tonight might need to be an Ativan night so that he can sleep. And honestly, if the worst thing that comes out of chemo is chronic hiccups...we will take it!!
Husband diagnosed 10/11/12 with Stage III oral tongue SCC, T3N1M0 (HPV negative). 35 years old, non-smoker, non-drinker. Hemiglossectomy and left selective neck dissection (levels 2, 3, and 4) on 11/01/12. Chemo (Cisplatin x 3) finished 1/23/13. Radiation finished 1/28/13. | | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Sounds like your husband is doing fairly well. The hiccups can be from the Decadron, a corticosteroid, if he is getting that with the chemo infusion or a barbiturate, amongst others. I haven't heard in much of treatment, except Thorazine, which, have their own side effects, Neurontin too, which I take for neuropathy.
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10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 939 | Bill had terrible hiccups as well. MO prescribed Thorazine for them...worked very well.
Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997. DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0 TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5. TREATMENT END: 10/1/07 PEG OUT: 1/08 PORT OUT: 4/09 FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!
Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
| | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF Kiwi Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,024 | Kris had intractable hiccups. Treated them with Haloperidol, Chlorpromazine, Metoclopramide and Lorazepam. None of this worked, but Kris was so sedated they became more tolerable. They lasted 2 weeks and occurred with each dose of chemo . Best of luck, Tammy
Caregiver/advocate to Husband Kris age 59@ diagnosis DX Dec '10 SCC BOT T4aN2bM0 HPV+ve.Cisplatin x3 35 IMRT. PET 6/11 clear. R) level 2-4 neck dissection 8/1/11 to remove residual node - necrotic with NED Feb '12 Ca back.. 3/8/12 total glossectomy/laryngectomy/bilat neck dissection/partial pharyngectomy etc. clear margins. All nodes negative for disease. PEG in. March 2017 - 5 years disease free. Woohoo!
| | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Member | OP Member Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 20 | Yep, we have a thorazine prescription now...made my 3rd trip to Walgreens in 2 days to pick it up at 9 pm. 
Husband diagnosed 10/11/12 with Stage III oral tongue SCC, T3N1M0 (HPV negative). 35 years old, non-smoker, non-drinker. Hemiglossectomy and left selective neck dissection (levels 2, 3, and 4) on 11/01/12. Chemo (Cisplatin x 3) finished 1/23/13. Radiation finished 1/28/13. | | |
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