| Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 50 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 50 | Hi all
Well Bob is 2 weeks done with treatment. He is troubled by his lack of speach. He says he can't talk and when he tries the pain is so bad that he won't speak again till the next day. My question is,about how long does this last?
thanks Deb
Deb taking care of Bob, left retromolar tirgone&alveolar ridge SCC stage IV pT4anomx 11/3/10 partial mandiblctmy,trech,chest flap 11/9/10 Trech out, PEG in 1/19/11- 3/9/11 Cisplatin x3, IMRT x33 | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Deb, Im sorry Bob is in pain when he tries to talk. I lost my voice for about 3 weeks. Not only was it too painful to talk but I had no voice at above a whisper. Is he taking pain meds? If not, maybe that would help. Of course we all respond in own own unique way to medication, procedures and treatments. It should be very soon Bob will start to begin feeling better. That usually takes about 2-3 weeks after treatments have finished. It will be a long process, 2 steps forward and 1 back for then next few weeks. Most doctors will say it will take one month of recovery for every week of radiation. Bob could take even longer, he went thru extensive surgery prior to undergoing rads. Wishing both of you all the best and a speedy recovery. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I lost my voice for about a week and I had a bell that I used VERY OFTEN. Never have seen that bell since but I have heard stories....
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Deb
I wish the doctors would spell out for oral cancer patients that yes, it's perfectly normal for you to lose your voice for a couple of weeks after TX. Mine didn't, and I assume yours did not based on the post.
My experience was right in line with Christine and David except that my wife would not let me ring a bell or anything like that. It was very very hard for me not to be able to talk at all and even more frustrating for my wife since I was constantly scribbling things I wanted to convey on phone calls. It took me a full month before I could actually speak in my new normal. Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 50 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 50 | Thanks all of you. I get frustrated with Bob when he doesn't answer me. I realize that he can't talk, so I get down on my self for being angry with him. We are very happy to hear that it is a temporary side effect.
Deb
Deb taking care of Bob, left retromolar tirgone&alveolar ridge SCC stage IV pT4anomx 11/3/10 partial mandiblctmy,trech,chest flap 11/9/10 Trech out, PEG in 1/19/11- 3/9/11 Cisplatin x3, IMRT x33 | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | Deb - I know how you must be feeling. My son lost his voice, too and said it was too painful to talk. We used a lot of improvised sign language (thumbs up, down, shoulder shrugs, etc.) so much so that his daughter started using it with me, as well. It was almost comical sometimes when Paul would get angry with me for not understanding him. He would try so hard to express anger and it just wasn't working! For some reason his frustrated attempt at expressing anger kind of struck me funny but I was very careful not to even smile because I knew he was so serious. I would try to just use yes or no questions or give him choices where he could hold up 1, 2, or 3 fingers. It can be so frustrating for both patient and caregiver. It does get better, though.
Anne-Marie CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
| | | | Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 147 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 147 | I lost my voice also for about 3 weeks. However, I acquired a bicycle horn - much to the dimay of my husband and son. Along with the loss of my voice, I just felt so crappy that I didn't want to use the energy to talk. It will get better.
DX 2/10/09; Stage 1 SCC side of tongue; Partial Gloss; PEG in 3/3/09; 3 Cisplatin; 35 IMRT; PEG out 7/17/09; Eating via mouth and walking 3 miles/day 4 wks after treatment end. 50 pound weight loss; Clear PET 09/09 and 09/10 | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | A pad and pen came in very handy.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | I agree with the pad and pen. I had them but afer the 1st time using them, I just forced myself to talk ad the pain was nmo worse. It's like when I worked, If I flet bad from Phneumonia or anything else. I would tell my wife that I was going to work as I hurt no worse working than. You can surprise yourself as to what you are capable of. I'm not tough, just a hardhead.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409 | Ah, the virtues of living alone. I lost my voice for a good 2 months although I got fairly adept at whispering. When I had the energy. Either way the mice in the walls didn't seem to care.
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David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 15 years all clear in 6/24 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
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