| Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 | HPV has officially displaced tobacco today as the number one cause of oral cancers. This data has been widely reported in the media. "Scientists say that 64 percent of cancers of the oral cavity, head, and neck in the U.S. are caused by human papillomavirus ( HPV), which is commonly spread via oral sex." From CBS to NPR, OCF and our surrogates that helped us, worked hard to see this story get out. While most of the newbies here know us from this forum, this public awareness work is a large part of OCF's mission, combined with sponsoring research. This is happening in First World developed countries, and not in third world countries. The simple explanation for this is that in the third world, tobacco use is still on the increase, (we export tons of it to them) and in developed countries its use is declining. There are likely some differences in sexual behaviors as well, but those pale in comparison to the tobacco issues. Here are two of the most important places it was picked up which we placed on the OCF news site: http://oralcancernews.org/wp/oral-sex-now-main-cause-of-oral-cancer-who-faces-biggest-risk/http://oralcancernews.org/wp/virus-passed-during-oral-sex-tops-tobacco-as-throat-cancer-cause/And another interesting story about adolescents and oral sex was put on the OCF news feed today as well, as this all ties together http://oralcancernews.org/wp/adolescents-and-oral-sex-is-it-really-something-to-worry-about-2/For those newbies that do not monitor it, you can subscribe to the OCF news feed for free, which is updated about 5 times a week by our own oral cancer survivor and volunteer to OCF, Sheldon Sax, who has done a wonderful job of this for years now. From human interest stories to hard science, if it is related to oral cancers, we scour the world's news media and scientific journals to bring the best of it to those interested in the subject. From medical and dental students, to patients, and even reporters at medical news desks at major publications, OCF has thousands of subscribers to our feed. http://oralcancernews.org/wp/category/oral_cancer_news/
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Another great post by our leader. Brian as usual, when you speak we all listen. I thought I heard that info on one of the news shows I watch daily. Thanks for posting this.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | I saw this and was very surprised by the numbers. The former study quoted smokers as making up something like 75% of oral cancer patients. This is both good and very scary as well. HPV patients have less recurrences which is so much better than going thru this over and over. But then on the other hand, the impact on society and all the other things HPV can cause is very scary. Thanks Brian for giving us such important info. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | It never ceases to amaze me how many people are stunned when I inform them that OC can very likely be caused by a virus. I am not certain what caused my tonsil cancer, since it was prior to the strong evidence about HPV (and I was never tested for it), but it responded well to treatment, the tumor melting into oblivion after only 3 weeks of radiation (if only they could have stopped there ;-). There was no recurrence. I am also certain that not drinking and smoking helped the outcome as well.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 | [quote=Brian Hill] HPV has officially displaced tobacco today as the number one cause of oral cancers... "Scientists say that 64 percent of cancers of the oral cavity, head, and neck in the U.S. are caused by human papillomavirus ( HPV), which is commonly spread via oral sex." ... [/quote] I'm a bit confused by these stats. If the approximate number of OC cases/year in the U.S. are 37K, then are we saying HPV+ cases now comprise about 24K of those? Another recent article link from Charm (by Dr. William Lydiatt, at the University of Nebraska Medical Center) stated the HPV+ cases are approximately 15K /yr (up from 10K a decade ago). http://www.omaha.com/article/20110226/LIVEWELL01/702269904/1161Numbers don't seem to add up, or am I missing something?!
Don TXN2bM0 Stage IVa SCC-Occult Primary FNA 6/6/08-SCC in node<2cm PET/CT 6/19/08-SCC in 2nd node<1cm HiRes CT 6/21/08 Exploratory,Tonsillectomy(benign),Right SND 6/23/08 PEG 7/3/08-11/6/08 35 TomoTherapy 7/16/08-9/04/08 No Chemo Clear PET/CT 11/15/08, 5/15/09, 5/28/10, 7/8/11
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | That would be what the data suggests and in fact the OC rate is not only increasing but younger patients are being Dx'd. When I was Dx'd in 2002 there were only 30K patients/year in the US. IMO many people are probably still not tested for HPV. Help us out Brian...
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Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 | As I posted on another thread, I don't think the two doctors quoted in Charms article are up to speed. There was a large public health meeting held last week, and Gillison and others brought the data up to date, which was widely then reported in the other media around the country, as I posted above. The two stories that I posted above from CBS and NPR are ones that seldom get the story wrong though it hit lots of media. The article coming out from Gillison next month in NEJM will actually detail all the data both from a retrospective point of view looking at the rapid increase over the last 30 years, and looking into the future for the next ten. This is really going to increase rapidly in incidence. There really ins't anything we can do to stop it from happening. As an advocate for the disease that reality is particularly disturbing. People have suspected this had already happened for some time as individual treatment centers looking at their local patient populations were already reporting incidence rates of 60% HPV and more. But the problem was there was no national consensus up till just recently. Hopkins and James say more than 60% of new patients, MDACC says more than 70% and so on. So for it to be 51% is very believable. Not every cancer center in the US is collecting data, and worse they do not all use the same test to determine if the cancers is HPV+, which has caused other problems in the data, mostly artifacts of HPV 18, 33, 35, which are certainly not players in this, but actually assay type errors in very small numbers. If someone is interested, I can talk about this more, but it really doesn't change this thread, and that is the virus is king in OC now.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 | Brian, I'm curious, as a non-smoker, very light drinker with a primary that was never tested for HPV due to the location, are your researchers still only seeing HPV+ tumors at the back of the oral cavity? - Margaret
Stage IV SCC lt lateral tongue, surgery 5/19/08 (partial gloss/upper neck dissection left side/radial free flap reconstruction) IMRT w/weekly Cisplatin & Erbitux 6/30/08, PEG 1 6/12/08 - out 7/14 (in abdominal wall, not stomach), PEG 2 7/23/08 - out 11/20/08, Tx done 8/18/08 Second SCC tumor, Stage 1, rt mobile tongue, removed 10/18/2016, right neck dissection 12/9/2016 Third SCC tumor, diagnosed, 4/19/2108, rt submandibular mass, HPV-, IMRT w/ weekly Cisplatin, 5/9 - 6/25/2018, PEG 3 5/31/2018
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 67 | It is not impossible to have an HPV positive lesion in the anterior mouth. Having said that it is exceptionally rare. I am going from memory on a conversation with Gillison 6 months ago, but I think she said she had only seen two EVER.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 |
Stage IV SCC lt lateral tongue, surgery 5/19/08 (partial gloss/upper neck dissection left side/radial free flap reconstruction) IMRT w/weekly Cisplatin & Erbitux 6/30/08, PEG 1 6/12/08 - out 7/14 (in abdominal wall, not stomach), PEG 2 7/23/08 - out 11/20/08, Tx done 8/18/08 Second SCC tumor, Stage 1, rt mobile tongue, removed 10/18/2016, right neck dissection 12/9/2016 Third SCC tumor, diagnosed, 4/19/2108, rt submandibular mass, HPV-, IMRT w/ weekly Cisplatin, 5/9 - 6/25/2018, PEG 3 5/31/2018
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