| | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 | my hubby got his PEG done today. tremendous amount of pain. he says he feels like he has been kicked in the stomach by a horse. we did not get any "paper" instructions on the PEG just oral instructions. he is not very happy with the doc that placed his tube, especially since the doc told him he shouldnt be in that much pain. grrrrrr! he ate (normally) tonite and now some fluid seems to leaking from the tube, should this be cause for concern?? i am headed to the pharmacy to get a syringe to flush it. the doc said to start flushing twice a day starting tomorrow. again, he is in agony--it breaks my heart to see this--thank GOD he had some vicodin left from his port surgery, since the surgeon today didnt seem to think that he needed any prescription meds. feeling so helpless.... teresa
Teresa ----------- CG to ANDY. Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma (NPC) T2N2cMxG4 stage 4. 43 @ dx 8/31/09 tx 9/21/09-11/06/09 cispatin/docetaxel/5-FU X3 PORT 9/9/09, PEG 12/07/09 35 IMRT-1/wk carbo 11/30/09-2/3/10 tx stopped due to complications IMRT BOOST 3/08-3/12/10 PET 4/12/10 CLEAR! PEG out 4/14/10
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 147 Senior Member (100+ posts) | | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 147 | The leakage from the tube is normal. Not a reason for concern. Whenever you have the tube open always keep the open end up high, otherwise the contents of your stomach with drip/run out. For me, the pain let up completely with in one week. Have him stay away from carbinated drinks and gassy foods. They are not his friend! I experienced a bit of pain each time I ate during the first week or two. It was explained to me that the stomach moves around as it is going through digestion, and this PEG sort of tethers it down, therefore making it hurt. Good luck to you and him both. I saw all the work my husband did for me.....I saw the pain in his eyes as he hurt for me. It takes a heart of steel to be a caregiver....you, too endure alot.
DX 2/10/09; Stage 1 SCC side of tongue; Partial Gloss; PEG in 3/3/09; 3 Cisplatin; 35 IMRT; PEG out 7/17/09; Eating via mouth and walking 3 miles/day 4 wks after treatment end. 50 pound weight loss; Clear PET 09/09 and 09/10 | | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 | thank u. i will definately take ur advise!!
Teresa ----------- CG to ANDY. Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma (NPC) T2N2cMxG4 stage 4. 43 @ dx 8/31/09 tx 9/21/09-11/06/09 cispatin/docetaxel/5-FU X3 PORT 9/9/09, PEG 12/07/09 35 IMRT-1/wk carbo 11/30/09-2/3/10 tx stopped due to complications IMRT BOOST 3/08-3/12/10 PET 4/12/10 CLEAR! PEG out 4/14/10
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 | Teresa,
PEG's are a point of much dispute on this site, so I hope this stays to point.
I had a PEG placed and I did need it...but it did hurt like hell. They couldn't place my PEG "traditionally" by snaking it down my throat and pushing through my stomach and abdominal wall, due to how thick my abdominal wall was. So I had to have my stomach inflated with air, sedated but conscious and a local administered and then they cut into me...I felt every minute of it. What was worse was the pain I felt for days afterwards as the air escaped my body. Leakage is normal sometimes I had this greenish booger/snot looking stuff seeping from the tube site. The site of the tube would get irritated by clothing, movement etc...so minor redness will happen as well as the site being sensative.
Teresa, you have the hardest job as the caregiver, use this site as much as possible for the valueable information and advice. Knowledge is power, the more you know about what's to come the less helpless you should feel.
The only things you can control through this is: 1) Medical team, make sure you are getting the best Dr's you can, start at a Cancer Care Center or like MD Anderson. You may only get one chance to beat this disease, using second rate drs is a recipe for death.
2) Attitude, keep the faith, keep hope alive...you don't have to sing hymnals and dance through the street spreading the "magic" but see the upside.
3) Nutrition, you have to see that he's getting the calories to help his body fight this crap.
the rest is up to his medical professionals and how his body reacts to treatment.
Good luck
Eric
Young Frack, SCC T4N2M0, Cisplatin,35+ rads,ND, RT Mandiblectomy w fibular free flap, facial paralysis, "He who has a "why" to live can bear with almost any "how"." -Nietzche "WARNING" PG-13 due to Sarcasm & WAY too much attitude, interact at your own risk.
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 440 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 440 | So sorry your husband is in pain but give it a week and it should go away.
The drainage is completely normal and you will continue to have very small amounts of drainage while having a PEG, pink to lite reddness is normal at the insertion site.
Don't forget to flush before and after each use. Depending on what FR your husbands PEG is, be careful pushing anything other than formula down. Mine is a 12FR and I'm too chicken to push pureed food down it because I don't want it to get clogged.
HTH!
Dx 3/27/09 @ 28 years old with High Grade MEC T4N2M0 Elizabeth, 33, mother of 3 girls (4,7, &8yrs old) 3 rds of chemo(Carbo/Taxol) Rt Mandibulectomy, rt fibular flap,& rt ND with trach, picc,& g-tube. 30 rds of rads with weekly cisplatin SCANS ALL CLEAR! OCF Regional Coordinator of San Antonio Walk
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 453 "OCF Down Under" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | | "OCF Down Under" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 453 | Hi Teresa, My husband Steve's peg hurt him badly for more than a week due to an infection at the site. We were told it should settle after about 4 days out from it being inserted but at 4 days the infection kicked in. My best advise is to try and avoid this as much as possible. It resulted in an 11 day stay in hospital for Steve and a massive cocktail of antibiotics for the 4 bugs he had at the site. Keep it clean, keep it clean, keep it clean. I really can't say it enough. It's an open wound so needs to be looked after. Steve still to this day keeps it covered with surgical padding and makes sure the site is cleaned regularly. Also we were told to flush it 4 times a day and definitely after each use.
All the best to you and your husband Teresa. Stay strong and stay positive. Remember always that when times get tough that all of us are here for you.
Wendy
Wife to Steve 43. DX 5 May 09. T4N2MO SCC tongue, floor of mouth, lymph nodes & jaw bone No surgery radiation 13/07/2009 x 7wks chemo 15/07/2009 x 3 Cisplatin last TX 28/08/2009 25/11/2009 PET-lymph node activity. 08/01/2010 CT Scan-ALL CLEAR 03/03/2010-Peg removed 01/2013 left side of Jaw removed and replaced with pectoral flap. 23/12/2020 scan show lesion in tongue 01/2021 SCC stage 3 base of tongue diagnosed 01/03/2021 chemotherapy started. 17/03/22 lost the battle. Missed dearly
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 212 Gold Member (200+ posts) | | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 212 | Hi Teresa,
All great advice. Mi hury alot for two days then only a little. I did have the discharge, looked like snot. I also puta dab of neosporin on it each day. My doctor had arranged for a home nurce to come by and look at it a couple times a week. Another group supplied the food (Jevitey) and boxes of syriges.
tell your hubby to hang it there
Steve
70 male, athlete...again SSC of undetermined orgin , early july 09 40 tx radiation, 8 chemo cisplatin and ebuterx finished TX in mid Sept 09 Clear at the 6 year mark! Back to swimming, biking and running! just a tad slower never regained my weight, even when I eat lots and lots, just a skinny guy now
Just way glad to be seeing the green side up!
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 71 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 71 | Hey Teresa, We are with you and Steve. I do not remember the pain (thanks hydracodone the memory eraser). The site should respond well to neosporin or Biaffine(?). I know it hurts but he should also turn/rotate the peg every day. The spinning will keep the abdominal wall from grafting/bonding to the device. I spin mine a full turn in the shower with no problems. If he is unhappy with the doc then I recommend replacement or a heart to heart consultation. This is no disease to fight with a sub par med team. Good luck with this part and know that you and Steve can overcome this painful bump in the road.
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11/1999 SCC tongue - surgery 1/2000 Met(s) in lymph nodes - modRND 2/2000-4/2000 RT ~6 weeks end of 2006 SCC tongue - surgery 1/2008 SCC BOT - surgery / PEG installed 2/2008 chemo & RT 4/2008 last time I consumed solid food by mouth
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 | thank u all for the advise! as soon as i opened the tube to flush it, alot of air came out. he actually said that relieved some of the pain--who would have thought. he said today it is still painful, but about 1/2 as much as yesterday.
his shoulders were also bothering him yesterday which i read was linked to this proceedure. today they are fine.
he has a very high tolerance for pain so when he was screaming in agony last night, i knew he was in a tremendous amount of pain. he was screaming at me saying "why did i listen to you and get this thing". even though the MO instisted but i also pushed him, telling him better safe than sorry.
today is a new day, he is doing better. he missed his IMRT yesterday and today but will restart tomorrow along with chemo.
Teresa ----------- CG to ANDY. Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma (NPC) T2N2cMxG4 stage 4. 43 @ dx 8/31/09 tx 9/21/09-11/06/09 cispatin/docetaxel/5-FU X3 PORT 9/9/09, PEG 12/07/09 35 IMRT-1/wk carbo 11/30/09-2/3/10 tx stopped due to complications IMRT BOOST 3/08-3/12/10 PET 4/12/10 CLEAR! PEG out 4/14/10
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