| Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 | Hi, My boyfriend is 5 month after treatment and gets dry days and sahara days like you. His tongue then becomes brown, so he brushes it. So he gets bad days and very very bad days. He sips a lot of water when he eats and chips and a burger (which he has been craving) are out of the question for the time being. His GP has prescribed him a saliva spray which is a short temporay relief. It's called Glandosane. It's not a miracle spray but it helps a little. He drank so much water last week because he was so dry, that he was sick water. So now he alternates when he is up and gets dry, a sip of water, a spray, a sip of water... Dig texas says the water bottle is part of his arm, Martin's bottle live in my handbag (oh and it's my fault if he forgets  although now I don't forget) I am used to carrying a heavier handbag. What also seemed to help a little with the mucus was a nebulizer. He used to nebulize 3 times a day with some saline solution and did feel a bit better after the session, unfortunately the nebulizer was on lone ans we had to give it back. As for the swallowing Martin has a "slow triple gulp" especially with water, a mouthful of water takes three attempts to go down, but that doesn't seem to bother him too much now. Otherwise, reading everyone else's email makes me hopeful that it might just get better. Keep positive, it seems everyone heals at completely different speeds. C
Girlfriend to Martin 49 years old at diagnosis Diagnosed with SCC unknown primary June 2008. Cancer found in single node Stage N2A (3 to 6cm). Tonsilectomy 16th june, Radical modified neck dissection left side 30th june. 30 TX radiotherapy ended 9th October First comparative study scan came back clear
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 | Has anyone noticed if they get Sahara mouth more when they move about or are active? If martin does anyrhing that involves a little effort his mouth goes instantly dry. Today we drilled some hole and screwed some things to the ceiling and he asked my to touch his tongue and it felt like I was touching dry sandpaper. The consultant says he never heard that. Do you get this?
Girlfriend to Martin 49 years old at diagnosis Diagnosed with SCC unknown primary June 2008. Cancer found in single node Stage N2A (3 to 6cm). Tonsilectomy 16th june, Radical modified neck dissection left side 30th june. 30 TX radiotherapy ended 9th October First comparative study scan came back clear
| | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | Sometimes when we perform some activity, we breathe harder, esp through the mouth, which will dry it out in a hurry and we are distracted and forget to sip, which will keep it that way -- Happens to me a lot -- Consultant apparently has a lot to learn about all this...
Age 67 1/2 Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05 Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08 Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08 Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06 Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08) Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08) On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Seems to be the entire United Kingdom needs Liz to educate them again.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 225 | Thanks. That makes sense. he has learnt to sleep with his mouth closed but I supposed he'll need to remember to sip more, when he does something.
Girlfriend to Martin 49 years old at diagnosis Diagnosed with SCC unknown primary June 2008. Cancer found in single node Stage N2A (3 to 6cm). Tonsilectomy 16th june, Radical modified neck dissection left side 30th june. 30 TX radiotherapy ended 9th October First comparative study scan came back clear
| | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | Its like painting the Forth Road Bridge David,just when you think you have finished you have to go back to the beginning and start again.!!!!!!!!!
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007 Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 37 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 37 | Cray,
How much of a difference in swallowing did the evoxac make. Were the side effects real noticable? Thanks,
Mike age 53 TxN2bM0 stage IV tongue and 2 nodes, non smoker, non-drinker, heavy plastic wrap exposure 25+ years, 2 surgeries, neck dissection, 60 GY IMRT, cisplatin X5 | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 14 Member | Member Joined: May 2009 Posts: 14 | My husband has had very good success with Evoxac, no noticable side effects.
Spouse Husband age 55 SCC BOT and 3 nodes HPV 16+ Diagnosed 2/13/09 Stage 4 T2N3M0 Neck Dissection 2/13/09, 6 chemo cysplatin/taxol, 35 rad TX completed 5/8/09, PEG removed 6/26/09, PET Scan 8/3, 2/3 Clear!
| | | | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 231 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: May 2007 Posts: 231 | I had to have the nerve cut that controls swallowing and learning how to eat again was a very troublesome task. Keep doing what you therapist tells you to do and you will start noticing improvements. I still have a hard time swallowing but its better than being on that dam peg tube.
Dx Mar 07 with Base Of Tongue Stage IV. IMRT 35x with 3 doses Cysplatin ran concurrent. Tx ended May 31,07. Left and right node involved. Radical neck disection 7/18/07
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Charlie
If it was just a salvia issue, then swigs of water would ameliorate it. 5 months is way too early to "despair". Heck, I've been done surgery for nine months and can't eat and still rely 100% on a PEG tube. If you have not yet had a modified barium swallow test, you should get one. They are the gold standard for identifying what the swallowing difficulty really is as they show the entire process (or lack of it in my case - I have failed four MBS so far) So get an MBS and keep up with the swallowing exercises. I know just how you feel and it's very understandable and all too real. Still the majority of head and neck cancer patients do regain swallowing and eating. The figure I saw on the OCF pdf is that only 10% need to have a PEG indefinitely. So the odds are with you. charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
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