#10561 05-11-2007 10:42 AM | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 | I have been reading alot about alcohol and cancer, some studies say not to drink any alcohol at all after a cancer diagnosis and others say moderate intake is fine. I am not a big drinker, a little wine once in awhile but since my surgery I am afraid to have a social drink. My ENT made me laugh when I asked him the question, he said, if I did not have a drink now and then I would get heart disease. Funny! I guess never ask an Irishman if you can have a drink!!
Adele, mucoepidermoid carcinoma of the submandibular gland, 05/06, left neck dissection, gland and tumor removed, intermediate grade, margins negative, 9 lymph nodes negative, no rad, no chemo, 11/07 surgical biopsy of lymph node left neck, no cancer!
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#10562 05-11-2007 11:38 AM | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 525 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 525 | It has been found that a glass or two of wine is indeed good for the heart. He was not kidding!  As far as drinking after getting cancer....That is a good question??? 
DX 3-21-07 L tongue,SCC Stage IV (T3N2MO) TX Slash/Burn/Poison Method. ***Rapid Aggressive Recurrence 8-4-07 with same DX/TX. Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. Never Give Up! ****UPDATE**** Our dear friend Petey passed away, RIP 9-2-07
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#10563 05-11-2007 02:36 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 176 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 176 | Adele,
My Docs told me none at first, then only on social occasions. He said "it's not your heart that we're worried about". At the 1 3/4 mark, I asked my surgeon who said moderately is ok. I asked for def. of moderate and was told 1-2 glasses of wine/wk was his moderate. I now probably drink 1-3 glasses of wine or beer 2-3 x's per month on the average. It's almost two years post and still haven't had my beloved tequilla (100% agave only). Oh well, maybe at the end of August on my two year...maybe not... Most things are probably ok in moderation. Good luck. Rob
6-05, Left Tonsil-T1N2bM0 stageIVA, chemo(Cisplatin), radiation(6660cGy), neck disection, no PEG. HPV negative. (Doc suspects posit) 3-9-09 last of 30 HBO treatments.
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#10564 05-11-2007 03:24 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 | Hi, Adele, During one appt. with the Oncologist after radiation, John was grumbling about his mouth and throat being to raw to drink a beer- the Doc just said "So pour it down your peg". Amy in the Ozarks
CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease
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#10565 05-11-2007 04:10 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 64 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 64 | That had to be a joke. Since you would not get any taste of it the only purpose would be to get the alcohol buzz. Is this really what you want to be doing during recovery?
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | |
#10566 05-11-2007 04:36 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 | Nope- it was not a joke- Yep, it was "a buzz" for John- more mental than physical, I suspect- just part of his wanting - needing- to get back some of his "old normal" life. He could feel the cold can in his hand, and smell it before it went down the "hatch", say "cheers" to me if we were ending the day together and I was having a glass of wine. Quality of life has different meanings for each of us. Amy in the Ozarks
CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease
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#10567 05-11-2007 07:22 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,140 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,140 Likes: 1 | When at end of Rad I asked the doc about occasional wine, he said that would not be a problem. What I didn't know, and he most probably did, was that after the Rad, I cannot tolerate alcohol, or vinegar - might as well toss a lighted match in my mouth. So for some of us, I imagine that is not an issue. A low fat diet and lots of excerise is just going to have to protect my heart while I enjoy my new career as Designated Driver. | | |
#10568 05-12-2007 12:12 AM | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | There is always an "up" side! 
Anne-Marie CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
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#10569 05-12-2007 01:50 AM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 294 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 294 | I was a very occasional beer drinker in the former life, maybe a 6 pack a month with Mexican food. Now, 10 months post Tx I still cannot tolerate the taste of any beer. It tastes as though someone put about a cup of sugar in one bottle or can of it. Also cannot touch a Margarita as all I get is a heavy lime and sugar taste. Oh well, at least my coffee has remained a friend throughout all.
Bill D.
Dx 4/27/06, SCC, BOT, Stage III/IV, Tx 5/25/06 through 7/12/06 - 33 IMRT and 4 chemo, radical right side neck dissection 9/20/06.
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#10570 05-12-2007 02:10 AM | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 64 | I knew this would start a discussion. I am also of the mind that maybe 1-3 drinks per month would be okay. I think, maybe not sure, but obivously willing to take the chance!! I am also a walking nut and I love yoga and Tai Chi. My heart will certainly benefit from those acitivties more than that of bending my elbow. But, yes it certainly is part of socializing and being part of the group. Especially,on a beautful Canadian summers eve after watching my husband play baseball there is nothing nicer than sitting on the patio and enjoying a lovely cold dark beer with friends. I will let moderation prevail!! Thanks all!
Adele, mucoepidermoid carcinoma of the submandibular gland, 05/06, left neck dissection, gland and tumor removed, intermediate grade, margins negative, 9 lymph nodes negative, no rad, no chemo, 11/07 surgical biopsy of lymph node left neck, no cancer!
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