This is the only REAL choice that you are going to get in things, picking your treatment team/facility. There is no question, and there are even published articles on this in peer reviewed journals, that people treated at teaching hospitals, CCC's, have not only different, but sometimes better choices, and subsequent outcomes.

One of the many things that is screwed up with our healthcare system in the US, is that not all institutions offer the same standard of care. There is no doubt that community hospitals offer a different standard of care than CCC's. There are even differences in CCC's, based on philosophy of treatment. Without mentioning names, In the Chicago area, one CCC will give you the NCCN guideline chemo and radiation with surgery for salvage, and the other one goes right for the knife as the first choice. This is a fact. Given all these disparities, God help you if you are on an HMO system that won't pay if you go outside your local system, and you don't live next to a world class place. If you don't have insurance or are poor.... a completely different set of choices, and subsequent outcomes.

Your dilemma is worse than most people fully appreciate, as they are of the belief that care from doctors and institutions around our country is equal. It is far from it. That doesn't mean that lay people do not fall in love with a particular doctor at a small institution and swear by him. But just to put this in perspective, only 30% of the hospitals with cancer facility in the US have IMRT radiation available. IMRT is the best current mechanism for delivering radiation, since it is capable of sparing anatomy that is not cancer involved via its programming, though there is no proof that it eliminates cancer any better than any other delivery means. If you don't know that, if you don't know to ask, you are making a choice that may not be the best. This is the real tragedy of care in the US, that there are huge disparities. If you are a for profit community hospital that does not get federal funds for anything, than your standard of care is whatever you decide that it is. This is reality.

I am not stating this to disparage good doctors in community hospitals or small institutions. But there is just an obvious difference between working with someone that has not only seen your problem 50 times a month instead of 50 times a year, and has also dealt with the inevitable complications that arise multiple times and is not unfamiliar with all of them, or unsupported by a large team of others that are part of the decision making in both initial treatment decisions and complication resolution. It is just the nature of the system, and within it we are supposed to make the best decisions, as LAY PEOPLE that we can. Most do not even realize that there is a difference. Most cannot afford to go outside their coverage area to a world class institution. It is what it is. 7 presidents have recognized that the system is not the best it can be in many ways, and 7 presidents have failed to be able to break the hold of the vested interests that keep it the way that it is. Do not think that Obama Care, for all the effort that went into this, fixed it all. It only opened the dialog for a short time. The vested interests still have control, and the average patient is still getting very different grades of care based on things which many of them have no control over. It sucks.

The rule of thumb is second opinions are always a good thing, and in my personal opinion that second opinion should come from a teaching institution. In all this, remember that time is not your friend and if you are going to get multiple opinions for an advance stage disease, time is of the essence.

Each one of us makes the best decisions we can with the information at our disposal, and the insurance and financial capacities and assets that we have.


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.