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#94654 04-30-2009 03:13 AM
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I never noticed ewnsure plus until last night at Sam's Club. It has 350 calories to an 8 OZ bottle. There the price is $32.00 a case. Still a lot of money for 350 calories. I have to vote for VHC from carnation.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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It's a matter of taste. Since I did not have a PEG the first time around, the hospital dietician recommended Ensure Plus when I could not eat solid foods after the first 4 weeks. I just could not stomach more than one can a day of VHC. The Ensure Plus was palatable although hardly tasty. The VHC was just too "chalky". Of course, with the PEG, I use the Jevity 1.5 which is like Ensure Plus in terms of calories (355 calories per 8 fl oz can). And insurance pays partly for it, while they will not pay a penny for Ensure or VHC
How is Nutren 2- with its 500 calories? My ENT said her other patients have had cramping and diarrhea issues with Nutren 2 more so than with Jevity 1.5


65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin

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Charm2017 #94673 04-30-2009 08:01 AM
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I agree with you on the taste Charm, it's chalky as eraser dust like we used to make while cleaning erasers for the teachers in grade school. I have never tried Nutren in fact I have never seen it. Maybe because something pretty walks by and I lose my train of thought . LOL,, I think ensure tastes much better than VHC


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
EzJim #94712 04-30-2009 05:08 PM
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I went thru 3 formulas before I found one I could tolerate. Jevity made me very sick but the Nutren worked ok when I watered it down. The postive side of having a PEG tube was I never had to taste any of the formulas, the smell was bad enough.


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
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4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
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ChristineB #94714 04-30-2009 05:31 PM
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LOL what else can I say. None of it is really tasty but needed.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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i still think that VHC tastes like pancake mix...but for some reason i can drink a can of it in seconds...faster then ensure or boost...boost is nasty but i also found it all to be good in coffee


7-16-08 age 37@Dx, T3N0M0 SCC 4.778cm tumor, left side of oral tongue, non smoker, casual drinker, I am the 4th in my family to have H&N cancer
8-13-08 left neck dissection and 40% of tongue removed, submandibular salivary gland & 14 nodes clean, no chemo, IMRTx35
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Ray1971 #94772 05-01-2009 03:58 PM
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How much really can you taste. It's like everything else. The 1st taste has flavor and after the flavor is gone. I put hot pepper juice on some spaghetti I tried, LOL Same with it.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
EzJim #94809 05-02-2009 12:48 PM
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Actually, I'm beginning to quite like the flavor of vanilla Ensure Plus. This is what I tell myself each day, lol. I tortured myself last night by watching the Texas Steak Cookoff on Food Network. Wish I could drool.


David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer.
And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer.
May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
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Martin couldn't stomach ensure, he found it too thick and it tasted horrible. But he managed the banana flavour scandishake to mix with milk, but he could only manage 1 pint as it filled him up. Then he couldn't swallow full stop so had the PEG. Thank God for the PEG, I could feed him regularly while he was dosing and make sure he had some nutrition in him.
& months on he managed some chinese food just today, beef in black bean sauce with rice. It was wet and a bit spicy, so tasty. He made the mistake of trying a slice of orange, and the look on his face was a picture! It tasted like sea salt!


Girlfriend to Martin 49 years old at diagnosis
Diagnosed with SCC unknown primary June 2008.
Cancer found in single node Stage N2A (3 to 6cm).
Tonsilectomy 16th june, Radical modified neck dissection left side 30th june.
30 TX radiotherapy ended 9th October
First comparative study scan came back clear
Cecilia #94916 05-04-2009 06:12 PM
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LOL poor Martin learned a lesson today. One I had to learn too like all of us did. David I watch the cooking shows all of the time and can't figure out why the hell I do it. LOL Must be envy of the eating population.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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