#80539 09-16-2008 07:13 PM | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 | My name is David, I'm 60 yrs old and live in Northern California. In nov, 2007, as my wife and I were preparing for a 2 week trip to Puerto Vallarta, I discovered a lump on the right side of my neck. Well, I really wanted to go to Mwxico so I didn't say anything. Shortly into our trip my wife, who is an RN, noticed it and thought right off that it may be cancer. That put a dark cloud over our trip. When we got back home I went in to have it looked into. Was sent to ear, nose, throat doc who did a needle biopsy and confirmed it was malignant. Went for a pet scan which only showed the tumor on my neck and nothing else, so, the ent doc did an exploration of my throat and found the primary tumor on my right tonsil. By now it was into jan. 08 just to find the enemy. Finally started chemo on feb 1st and radiation on feb 4. Five days a weeki for 7 weeks on the rad and chemo every wed. Had wonderful support from my wife and step son but I admit there were times I felt like giving up. In may I had a pet scan which showed that the tumor had shrunk from 4.5cm to 11mm causing much optimism with the rad and chemo docs. At the end of aug. I had another scan which showed the neck area clear of cancer however there was something nasty looking in my right lung. I pretty much resigned myself to having to go through more cancer treatments and even surgery. A needle biopsy was done and after 3 days of sweating it out I got the word that it was benign and so I am cancer free. Now I'm just waiting for my taste to return so I can enjoy some real food. I know that that my salivary glands are probably a loss so it will take a lot of liquid to wash food down but that's ok, just as long as I can eat. I'm pretty tired of Ensure. But that's pretty small stuff considering that I am alive and cancer free.
David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer. And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer. May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 | That is a great story, David! I was born and raised in the Bay Area before moving to Ohio 14 years ago. Yeah, the taste and the fried salivary glands are not a lot of fun, but not bad at all, under the circumstances. At just about 14 months post treatment, my taste is about 85%. I can taste just about everything, but some things are still a bit off, and overall taste is a little muted from before.
As for salivary glands, well that has been a slower process, and I am probably close to as good as it's going to get. Lots of Biotene products and lots of water, and I can eat just about anything.
An inspiring story -- keep up the good work! Jeff SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007 T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007 39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07 Complete response to treatment so far!!
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | David, Don't give up on the taste or dry mouth as the recovery in these areas can take up to 2 years. When I was 16 months post Tx I had a big improvement in both so as I said don't think you are anywhere near finished in the improvement category. Watch out for your thyroid. Many of us had to start taking a daily pill months post Tx. Have your TSH levels checked regularly and especially if you feel tired and have sweats and feel cold. Did they tell you what caused your cancer. I was a non smoker and tested positive for HPV. If you were not a smoker you are a good candidate for HPV as well. Hang in there for a while longer and give your body a chance to recover from that barbaric treatment.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 309 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 309 | Awesome news, David! Welcome and I pray your current health status will remain and there will be no reoccurence for you.
Rita - Age 44 wife, mother of 4 - ages 3,16,21,24 & grandma to 1 (R upper) Maxillectomy 8/8/08 - UW / Seattle, WA.
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"Those who think by the inch and speak by the yard, should be kicked by the foot."
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Good job David and thanks for coming on board and posting. Like you I am waiting for my taste to return andf a sloppy mouth at times. LOL I miss them both but mainly miss my teeth. It's been a long slow journey so gfar, but as long as I stay one step of OC, I am winning the battle. Good Luck to you and wecome to our home.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 1 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 1 | Hi, I am new to the site. I am a caregiver. It is really difficult watching a friend endure chemo and radiation. He is loosing weight and I don't know how to help. He has a feeding tube but is not gaining weight. I try to remain upbeat but it is very difficult. My friend has throat cancer but was never a smoker or heavy drinker. He has had one infection with the tube and was readmitted to the hospital. The infection is gone but now he can't gain weight. Any advise? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 | Thanks for the welcome. I didn't mention that I quit smoking 20 years ago and am a light drinker. None of my doctors has mentioned the HPV virus, they just kinda say "luck of the draw" because they don't know the cause. Well, I'd rather that "luck of the draw" work for the lotto but, there you go. As for gaining weight, I've been downing 2800 calories a day of Ensure and lately have been able to eat ice cream  and the weight is coming back very slowly. I lost 45lbs and have gained back about 8 here 6 mo.s post treatment. Everything seems to happen very slowly. Best wishes to all; David
David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer. And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer. May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,357 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,357 Likes: 5 | Welcome to the site David. You sound like you have good perspective on your situation - you are right - things will come back but it takes time and patience is a virtue some of us have to work at!
Keep posting.
Donna
Donna,69, SCC L Tongue T2N1MO Stg IV 4/04 w/partial gloss;32 radtx; T2N2M0 Stg IV; R tongue-2nd partial gloss w/graft 10/07; 30 radtx/2 cispl 2/08. 3rd Oral Cancer surgery 1/22 - Stage 1. 2022 surgery eliminated swallowing and bottom left jaw. Now a “Tubie for Life”.no food envy - Thank God! Surviving isn't easy!!!! .Proudly Canadian - YES, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS WONDERFUL! (Not perfect but definitely WONDERFUL)
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Even today many doctors do not even recognize HPV as a cause of the type of cancer you had, much less advise the patient that a test for it exists. Mine fought me at first and I was seen at what is called a Comprehensive Cancer Center. I had to twist their arm to send my biopsy slides to John's Hopkins to get tested. That was 2 years ago. Now Moffitt tests anyone fitting the HPV profile. You may not care what caused your cancer but if you do check out HPV by clicking on it. You also may want to check up on Carnation Instant Breakfast VHC which packs 560 calories in the same can as your Ensure. If your interested just ask for more details. It was a life saver to me. Even today I have a much harder time gaining weight than pre Tx and I seem to eat way more now than I ever could afford to.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 716 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 716 | Welcome to the site David! Sounds like your doing great...I've been here for about a month and from what I read, a lot of people gain back losses in the 16mo to 24mo post tx. I started my rad txs the other day and my RO told me take it day by day and about 3 or 4mos post tx you'll notice changes. So, I'm not going to accept my new normal until I hit the big FOUR ZERO!
7-16-08 age 37@Dx, T3N0M0 SCC 4.778cm tumor, left side of oral tongue, non smoker, casual drinker, I am the 4th in my family to have H&N cancer 8-13-08 left neck dissection and 40% of tongue removed, submandibular salivary gland & 14 nodes clean, no chemo, IMRTx35 11-4-08 Recovering & feeling better | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Hi David and welcome. Glad to have you as a member. I love your attitude and hope that things get better for you in the eating department soon. Good things come to those that wait.
Kargeo,
You should read the first forum instructions for new members and learn how to start your own thread. It is difficult for us to keep track of you when you are hidden in another person's posting.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | Kargeo, your friend should be working with a nutritionist regarding his weight. If he is currently limited to what he can take in via the feeding tube, be advised that there are several brands of food that pack more calories per can than the regular ones. Nutren 2.0 has 500 cal/can vs the usual 285-300 cal/can.
If he can swallow and drink, Carnation's VHC packs 560 cal/can but apparently can't be used with tube (or at least insurance won't cover it).
Age 67 1/2 Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05 Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08 Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08 Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06 Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08) Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08) On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 | This is Tom, my wife is GinnyLee. We live in Alaska and she had biosies in Aug with report of OSCC on her gingiva (gums) on 9/2. ENT referred us to Loma Linda Hosp where we met head of Dept of Head and Neck Surgery. CT Scan and chest xrays done and Tumor Board meeting today 9/23 and we'll get report Tomorrow.
We are snowbirds and winter in Desert Hot Springs and Loma Linda is conveniently close, however; how do we verify that Loma Linda and our doctor are giving GinnyLee the optimum opportunity for good treatment?
I've been working on a list of questions for when the doctor calls.
Thanks, Tom | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | When will you be traveling back to the lower states? Do a search under Comprehensive Cancer Centers and see if something close pops up. You really haven't said much about her cancer or their Tx recommendations so it's hard to comment at this point.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 | We arrived in Calif 9/15 and first appointment at Loma Linda on 9/16 and staying until ginnylee is better. I'm in the dark until we get the Tumor Board recommendation. Don't know stage of disease. Just trying to learn all about oral cancer as quickly as I can.
Tom
How do you retain your history at the bottom of each post?
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 250 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 250 | Hi Tom,
I'm new here too, and it took a bit of trial and error to figure out some of this stuff. Go to "my stuff", "profile". Then go down to the "signature" section. That's where you can put any history info, personal favorite quotes, etc. If you go click on any member's name, you can view their profile and see how they wrote their signature sections. That's how I figured it out, anyway. I'll be darned if I can figure out some of those number * letter notations, though. My cancer saga started almost 3 years ago, but - as I said - I'm brand new to this site stuff.
Best of luck and I'm glad you found this site. I've only been here 3 days and I've been helped a lot already. I'll be watching for your updates and other posts.
Lani
SCC part glossectomy 3/06, recur 8/06 glossectomy, floor of mouth, part of jaw removed, RT/chemo thru 10/12/06, PET clear 7/08 "A bend in the road is not the end of the road, unless you fail to make the turn" Passed away 12/14/08
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,301 "OCF Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | "OCF Down Under" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,301 | Posted these some time ago but have listed them again. Hope this helps. BaCC = Basil Cell Carcinoma Biopsy = tissue sample removed for microscopic examination BOT = Base of tongue Brachytherapy = Radiation therapy with internal radioactive �seeds� CAT = Computed Axial Tomography (scan) CCC = Cancer Care Center CT = Computed (computer) Tomography (scan) Dives = treatments in a HBO unit DX = Diagnosis ENT = Ear Nose and Throat Doctor and surgeon FNA = Fine Needle Aspiration � (Needle Biopsy) HBO(T) = Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatments HIPAA = Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act HN = Head and neck HNC = Head and Neck Cancer HPV = Human Papilloma Virus IMRT = Intensity Modulated Radiation Therapy Met(s) = Metastasis or cancer spread MRI = Magnetic Resonance Imaging (scan) NCCN = National Comprehensive Cancer Network PCP = Primary Care Physician PEG = Percutaneous Endoscopic Gastronomy (G tube or tube) Feeding PET = Positron Emission Tomography (scan) PT = Physical Therapist QOL = Quality Of Life RND = Radical Neck Dissection (sometimes Resection) also Modified RO = Radiation Oncologist RT = Radiation Therapy also Radiotherapy (Radio) RX = Prescription or treatment SCC(a) = Squamous Cell Carcinoma also SqCCA and sq cell ca TX = Treatment Xerostomia = low saliva XRT = X ray Radiation Therapy http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/facts/stages_cancer.htm
History Leukoplakia bx 8/2006 SCC floor mouth T3N0M0- Verrucous Carcinoma. 14 hour 0p SCC-Right ND/excision/marginal mandibulectomy 9/2006, 4 teeth removed, flap from wrist, trach-ng 6 days- no chemo/rad. 6 ops and debulking (flap/tongue join) + bx's 2006-2012. bx Jan 2012 Hyperkeratosis-Epithelial Dysplasia 24cm GIST tumour removed 8/2013. Indefinite Oral Chemo.
1/31/16 passed away peacefully surrounded by family
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | And here's the list of CCC's: http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/resources/cancer_centers.htmGabe, there's an error in the list you posted -- A PEG and a G-tube are different. The PEG tube goes through the abdomenal and stomach walls into the stomach; the G-tube or GN-tube is gastro-nasal and is a tube fed up through one's nose and then down the back of the throat into stomach -- GNT has no surgery involved unless they put in sutures to hold it in place. At one time, we discussed putting all this pseudo-medical jargon in one place so it would be easy to refer to it and new members could find it, plus further explanations of things like Staging -- I personally know that it was a daunting task at first to understand this entire new language/code when I was rather distracted by what was happening to me, and I have to believe that was the same for many of us.
Age 67 1/2 Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05 Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08 Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08 Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06 Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08) Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08) On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 250 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 250 | Gabriel,
Wow, thank you SO MUCH. I was starting to figure a few of them out, but this list explains SO MUCH. Maybe there's a place it can be posted somewhere in the "New Here" section? (Or maybe it is, but I just didn't find it yet.) As people log in I've been looking at their profiles to try and get to know them, as I assume they do when I log in, but this part was still pretty confusing to me. (I got the "SCC" one pretty quick, though)
Thanks again,
Lani
SCC part glossectomy 3/06, recur 8/06 glossectomy, floor of mouth, part of jaw removed, RT/chemo thru 10/12/06, PET clear 7/08 "A bend in the road is not the end of the road, unless you fail to make the turn" Passed away 12/14/08
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 250 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 250 | Pete, Are we taking a vote? You know mine already. I vote for less confusion! 
SCC part glossectomy 3/06, recur 8/06 glossectomy, floor of mouth, part of jaw removed, RT/chemo thru 10/12/06, PET clear 7/08 "A bend in the road is not the end of the road, unless you fail to make the turn" Passed away 12/14/08
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