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Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Liz,
The mere fact that he has admitted to the charges should be allowed as evidence in any civil proceeding, at least it would here, so I would go forward even if all they do is slap his hands.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Liz,
I am shocked at how this is going and wonder how something like this would be handled in the US. Perhaps one of our attorney members will chime in.
You have been through so much already and wonder if you really want to go through a lawsuit. I would think that the bad publicity, especially if you get it on the news as Helen suggested, would be enough for you to put this to rest.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
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Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 | In general, if a malpractice suit were being litigated here, and absent a specific statute making the disciplinary proceedings privileged, the admission would be admissable as a declaration against interest or prior recorded testimony, depending upon how it occurred and in what form.
The approach taken by the disciplinary panel is not unusual -- most licensure actions are premised upon the public interest. With medical practitioners, the result of the malpractice is not dispositive of the case. Obviously, when dealing with health care matters, even a small error can have devastating consequences. They look more to the character of the mistake, the likelihood of it being repeated, and what it says, if anything about the fundamental knowledge and training of the practitioner.
So, if a neurosurgeon accidentally nicks a vessel in the brain, causing a stroke and death, that mistake, in isolation, would ordinarily not jeopardize his or her license. However, when you have repeated failure to take relevant action, as in Liz's case, most disciplinary panels would view this quite seriously.
While I don't have experience with dental boards, I do with medical. Even something with results as tragic as this would not necessarily result in the revocation of the doctor's right to practice. If it were a first offense, etc., there could be a lengthy suspension, requirement for further training and a period of supervised practice.
Jeff
SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007
T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa
Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007
39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07
Complete response to treatment so far!!
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Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | Much to my surprise yesterdays hearing was reported in the national press.I have spoken at length with the reporter who was at the hearing and he is going to follow up the report after the dentist gives his evidence tomorrow.I have been unable to copy the article into this message but i have posted it on my face book page,and i will also copy it into the oral cancer foundation facebook site.
This is the best news possible and takes the edge of the disappointment i felt when i came home.Unfortunately Jeffs post is exactly right and until we get the verdict on Friday i will make no more decisions regarding my future plans.
I have been asked to submit some photos of Robin and myself and to be prepared for further uptake of the story.They are also going to incorporate Pauls disappearance and asked for his photo as well,so just maybe some good will come out of all this.There are several reports on the internet which can be found by googling Naline Dharmecha.
Last edited by Cookey; 09-03-2008 12:57 PM.
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | I was contacted by the press today,and they are definatly following this up,when the verdict is in tomorrow
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,244 | Well that's a positive step, negative publicity for the dentist, but positive publicity for the early diagnosis of OC.
Hang on in there lady.
Sunshine.. love and hugs
Helen
SCC Base of tongue, (TISN0M0) laser surgery, 10/01 and 05/03 no clear margins. Radial free flap graft to tonsil pillar, partial glossectomy, left neck dissection 08/04
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Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | I know you are probably all bored to death with this subject,but i have just picked this article up on the internet,and wanted to share this with you
September 04, 2008 - DHAMECHA: DENTIST GUILTY OF MISCONDUCT OVER CANCER BLUNDER HINDHEAD, SURREY; LEEDS A dentist who told a patient suffering from mouth cancer to gargle with Listerine faces being thrown out of the profession today. (Thurs) Nalin Dhamecha assured Robin Read there was 'nothing untoward' when he asked for treatment for an ulcer under his tongue that was not healing.
The findings and judgment will be given today hopefully.
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,244 | Bored never.. The first place I come at the moment is here to see if you have any news.
So far it's looking good lady, lets hope the panel see it as such.
Sunshine.. love and hugs
Helen
SCC Base of tongue, (TISN0M0) laser surgery, 10/01 and 05/03 no clear margins. Radial free flap graft to tonsil pillar, partial glossectomy, left neck dissection 08/04
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Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Liz,
Certainly not bored. I look forward to all your postings, especially this one.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
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Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Liz,
The exposure is priceless and will lead to life saving awareness which is far more important than how this hearing will deal with him professionally. Job well done but as we say in the States, "strike while the iron's hot" meaning keep on pressing the media to talk this up now.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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