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#73840 04-29-2008 08:23 AM
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My daughter (age 42) has tongue cancer. She was treated last year (March '07) with radiation and Erbitux. She was pronouced cancer free November '07 but in February '08 the cancer was back and worse than ever (stage 3). She has chosen not to do surgery so there is little that can be done for her at this time. She has had a feeding tube since April '07 and is not able to take anything by mouth. My question is this: the cancer is producing a terrible odor from her mouth that is almost unbearable. Is there anything that we can do to help ease this odor?

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So, so sorry to hear about your daughter and that she has to deal with this again.

My brother was only recently diagnosed and is just beginning treatment, but he did have some pretty foul smelling breath at the outset and then a tooth just dropped right out of his jaw! The tooth obviously was rotted and because of his tumor, neither he nor a dentist was able to get up there to do anything about it.

You don't mention in your post but does your daughter still have her teeth? Could this be contributing? Just a thought.

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My daughter still has all of her teeth. The doctor said the odor is coming from the dying tissue (I think that is how he put it).

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I am sorry about your daughter's condition. There have been others that have had similar experiences about the odor but I have never heard anyone discuss what they were able to do about it. Hopefully you will hear from one of them.


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Unfortunateley this is a difficult problem,and is caused by necrotic tissue in the mouth.Robins was so bad it permeated the whole flat,and when he was admitted to the hospice it was a major issue.Oral hygeine is essential even though it is painful,and we used and small electric fan with an infusion of laveneder oil under the bed or beside his chair.The hospice used a machine that purified and deodourised the room.
Not much other help i can offer i am afraid.

hope someone else might have some better advice.

liz


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Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.

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Thank you for your replies. Using your ideas, Liz, will help at home. However, my daughter is still able to be up and out in public. My son went with her to a concert last week and he could tell the people around them were having a difficult time with the smell. I'm not sure how to even approach the subject with her. She has so much anger inside right now.

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I use a mouthwash made by oasis. It is alcohol and peroxide free.

It is soothing, has a slight mint taste and will hydrate the mouth as well. And yes, it does help with the breath issues. Rinse and gargle 2-3 times per day.

Helps me anyway


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My daughter was hospitalized last week for pneumonia. During her stay there they found out she also was anemic and gave her two units of blood. She will be returning today for another unit. While there, they sucked a lot of awfully foul smelling gunk out of her lungs. That has taken care of the horrible odor, at least for now. I hope it lasts a while. Kris is still up and about and takes care of herself but she is not feeding herself much and is getting so thin. I think she is just giving up.

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Weeze, I had Erbitux and rads too, followed by radiation seed implants in my tongue. She is just about the same as I was except they removed all of my teeth. I have been pronounced Cancer Free after the implants. Still hurt a lot, but I'm alive. Tell your daughter to check out the implants.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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My daughter had the same foul smell from the cancer/sores. She used oasis and another mouthwash free of irritants, it helped some. Also, simply rinsing mouth frequently w/ water and or water and baking soda helped some.


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She fought the fight with courage, hope and dedication. Ten months of battling tongue cancer. They thought they had it after each treatment. Not to be. Christa died at 32 y/o in Nov. '07.
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I sympathize with what your going through. I highly recommend rethinking about cutting the cancer out of the mouth. I had a hemiglossectomy and know how hard the decision is. I truly believe the surgeries I had saved my life. Best of luck to you.


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25 yr old. Dx 11 July 07 originated in tongue Stage IV. 3 surgeries had clear margins Had a hemiglossectomy 13 Aug and radical neck disection - Left side. chemo/rad Started 24 Sep 07 Finished 7 November 07-Never Smoked Drank on special Occasions
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try Betadine gargle , it helped my dad in keeping his mouth clean and odour free.
But please consult ur doc regarding the same , cause hes the right person to solve this.


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Age 59, T2N1M0, Stage 3, smoker left 5 years back, casual drinker , NACT with TAXOL +5FU+Cisplatin x 2, and 70 Gy in 35# from 03/10/08 to 04/26/08, no surgery, After Chemo cycles tumor reduced 60%,
Cancer Free now !
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I will definitely pick up some Oasis or Betadine to see if it helps my daughter. As for surgery, I'm not sure why she has decided against the surgery. I think it's fear and exhaustion. She is tired. She will be on a feeding tube the rest of her life (and has been since April, 2007). She has lost so much weight and has little energy. She is loosing her voice. It is now so difficult to understand her. She is having a hard time accepting that she must write things down. I don't know that surgery is even an option at this point. It is such a sad process to see the cancer eat away at her.

I do appreciate all of your comments.

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I forgot I lost a part of my tongue and had a left neck radical dissection. Then I was pronounced cancer free, but man did they blow that one. Just like your daughter, mine came back in less than 2 months and was on both sides of my tongue. After that is when the teeth went and I started rads and chemo for the tongue implants. Wish I could talk to your daughter and convince her that she has a chance to beat this nasty stuff. I supposedly have won this war.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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