| Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 19 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 19 | Hello, I'm a first timer to the forum, so I apologize if I'm "out of order" posting here as opposed to some other place. I've read the survivor forum for years under various topics - e.g. mucositis. My quick background - SCC of gingiva in 2004 (non smoker, non drinker) 50's, diabetic, 2 recurrences (pre-radiation)- surgeries, radiation (entire oral cavity - IMRT 66 gy completed 18 months ago, dry mouth, trismus, couple biopsies (inflammation), take various meds including over the counter anti-inflammation/pain meds . My main problem is oral pain post radiation (18 months after radiation) - everthing I put in my mouth hurts - medication (e.g. Nystatin burns), most food burns (got to wash down with water asap), can only drink water/tea; I'm very dry always drinking water. My docs - ENT and radiation oncologist had claimed I was a "slow healer" but now are not so sure (they've called it mucositis but I wonder if radiation just destroyed my oral tissue permanently). Also when I talk alot - my left side (where I have up/lower teeth left) really gets raw and more pain (also have alot of yellow spots that come and go - treat with Nystatin liquid - helps but doesn't solve). I see very few comments about oral pain after oral radiation when completed even just months ago - any thoughts on my facts/issue (especially the pain) would be appreciated.
Jim04 - oral/gingival SCC in 2004; surgeries, radiation, 2 recurrences
| | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 104 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 104 | Hello Jim04,
I don't think your out of order posting here, just looks like you should start your own thread so it doesn't get lost, right here in Introductions. You're doing good! You found the board and people who can help! I'm a caregiver wannabee, so I don't know how to help with the pain issues. But I believe someone will! Welcome to the board Jim!
Dad had oral lichens planus, and oral leukoplakia before T2 SCC,2 nodes. DX10/23/03 IMRT 12/29/03.30 rad,3 boost. Brachytherapy 3/8-3/11/04. Recurrence Nov07 Stage IV. 4 Surgeries No rads, no chemo I have oral lichens planus, thrush,leukoplakia 2/20/08 6/2/08 biopsies "inflammation"
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Jim,
What kind of surgery did you have. As far as the Rad Tx, it depends on where they radiated and your bodies' particular reaction to that. None of us are exactly the same as you can imagine. I didn't have any surgery and I am now 19 mos post Tx and I am faring much better than you sound so perhaps your surgery or your beam position and intensity to a specific region is the cause.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 19 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 19 | Thanks for the response. I had primary surgery on lower right side - removed about 4 lower back teeth, shaved jaw and did a tongue flap to cover - I had no real residual pain after surgeries - all from radiation (and yes brushing my teeth and using Therabite and when hitting tongue right side also causes real pain). I had IMRT 33 days/treatments to entire oral cavity (both sides of mouth) - from parotids (caught part of them) down to my adam's apple; I also had amifostine injections during treatment (supposed to decrease residual mucositis).
Jim04 - oral/gingival SCC in 2004; surgeries, radiation, 2 recurrences
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 19 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 19 | Thanks for the response. I would appreciate any info. on how to create a new "thread" in the forum.
Jim04 - oral/gingival SCC in 2004; surgeries, radiation, 2 recurrences
| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 720 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2006 Posts: 720 Likes: 1 | From the message board's home page, click on the forum where you want to start a new topic. You'll get a list of all the topics started so far. At the very top, on the left, is a tab that says New Topic. Click on that and start writing, then click the Submit button when you are done. That will put your new topic at the top of the forum.
-- Leslie
Leslie
April 2006: Husband dx by dentist with leukoplakia on tongue. Oral surgeon's biopsy 4/28/06: Moderate dysplasia; pathology report warned of possible "skip effect." ENT's excisional biopsy (got it all) 5/31/06: SCC in situ/small bit superficially invasive. Early detection saves lives.
| | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Hello Jim and welcome.
You should read the first Forum (New posters read this first) which is for new members. Brian put this together and it should tell you all you need to know to learn how to use the forum.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
| | | | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 388 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 388 | HI Brian - Of course, we are constantly concerned, just as everyone that has faced this cancer is, but the RO told us that he felt the second or third cancer would have occurred anyway, even if he had IMRT treatment at the original site. At his recent appt. with his oral surgeon here, she told him his mouth hasn't looked this good in a long time, which was encouraging. He is constantly monitored by an oncologist, an ENT, his dentist, and an oral surgeon here, plus two top notch ENTs up at Shands in Gainesville, Florida. I remember his ENT here telling us that he has one patient who has had something like 40 or 50 surgeries for oral cancers over a period of many years (wish I had a better memory and could recall more details) and in her 70s (?), finally quit smoking. (my husband never smoked or has any of the risk factors) I guess each case has to be taken individually, and treatment offered to meet the needs of the patient. I appreciate your concerns, which are certainly legitimate, but since his first cancer over 6 years ago, we think we are on the right path for prevention (we pray) of recurrences, thru various treatments recommended for him. Again, thanks for your concerns.....Warmly, JaneP 
Husband: 3 SCC gum and cheek cancers 2002, 2005, 2006: surgery only. Scans clear after removal of small, well differentiated, non-invasive cancers. No radiation. 4th SCC lip diagnosed 4/13/07 - in situ, removed in biopsy. More lip removed 2/8/08 - dysplasia. 2 Biopsies 3/17/09 no cancer (lichenoids)
| | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 790 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 790 | I don't understand why he's only had surgery. Woudn't the radiation have prevented the reoccurances from ever have happening?
Tongue Cancer T2 N0 M0 / Total Glossectomy Due to Location of Tumor
Finished all treatments May 25 2007 Surviving!!!
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Kate,
the goal of rad is to kill the existing cancer where it is and hopefully preventing from spreading. Since no one knows why we get the cancer in the first place, it can't prevent a reoccurrence.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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