#68427 01-25-2008 06:25 PM | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 148 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 148 | Its been almost two months since my last radiation treatment. I went in for a check up and my Doc felt my neck which was swollen, he said I would have this the rest of my life. Called it Turkey wattle. Ok what I am concerned about is My lower face and neck swells so bad mostly in the morning when I wake up and I choke But lately I feel swollen glands and they hurt. I feel at times that I am suffercateing. What should I do? He also said that it swells because one of my biopsies took away one of my saliva glands and my drip??? puddles. All I can understand from the nutritionalist is to use salt and soda wash., I did not have a peg or any surgeries only the radiation. I am just confused. I lost another pound and they told me not to lose any but I can't hardly eat anything without chocking on it. I drink lots of water and coffee with alot of cream. Never liked nothing in my coffee before but now I can't drink it the way I used to. Sorry so long here but I get more answers here then my Doc. I forget when I am with him because he fusses at me. Thanks for letting me ramble. Brenda
49 years young 9/2007 Squamous Cell Carcinoma 33 rad treatments. One year later, 9/17/2008 50 years old through the Grace of God. last check up all clear. Living life as it comes to me.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 148 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 148 | Oh and another thing he said is that my cancer would most likely come back is that true???
49 years young 9/2007 Squamous Cell Carcinoma 33 rad treatments. One year later, 9/17/2008 50 years old through the Grace of God. last check up all clear. Living life as it comes to me.
| | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 794 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 794 | Don't let the doctor "fuss" at you for asking questions. Before you go, take some time to write every single question, and tell him that since you can't ever remember everything when you are there, you are going to go down your list. And then do it! My doctor teases me about my list, but that's too bad. I still get self-conscious and skip some things on my list, but still it helps me. You'd be best off if you actually check off things as you ask them, and it also is helpful to have someone else in the room with you, since it is hard to listen when you are the patient.
I have no idea why he said that your cancer would come back. Every case is different.
Colleen--T-2N0M0 SCC dx'd 12/28/05...Hemi-maxillectomy, partial palatectomy, neck dissection 1/4/06....clear margins, neg. nodes....no radiation, no chemo....Cancer-free at 4 years!
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Brenda:
Im sorry to hear you are having a rough time. Dont forget the doctor works for YOU. Make your list, check it twice and ask everything and write down the answers. My doctor appointments are always at least 1/2 hr with the doctor because I make sure to understand everything. Ive never experienced the neck swelling or sufficating feelings. Please check with your doctor about your neck and make sure they understand you and dont leave til you understand them. The more calories you take in, the easier and faster your body heals. Have you tried ensure, boost or the carnation very hi calorie, they will help keep your weight up. Hang in there, it will get better.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Lep,
I can't believe he told you it would most likely come back. That depends on far more things than even he can imagine. You didn't mention if you were a tobacco user but if so I hope you have stopped FOREVER. We see some re occurrences on this site but no where near 50% and I'm not suggesting that is authoritative but if it were going to come back as he may be telling all his H & N patients then we would see many more here having it come back. Need more info on you before I could even try to understand that careless statement. IMO I wouldn't worry about it coming back, just concentrate on recovering.
As far as the Turkey Chin as I call it, this site has had many threads on that topic since I started posting and some were humorous to say the least. Bottom line is that it will diminish but usually won't go away. I still have mine and I asked my RO if I could let my friend, the plastic guy, remove it. I was assured by my friend that he could do it in a simple 30 minute procedure, you know snip snip, tug tug but my RO said NO WAY, to many risks and healing would be tough due to the radiation so I still haven't made up my mind but I guess I'm leaning towards the RO's side. Exercise doesn't help, weight loss doesn't help, nothing I do seems to make any improvement so Gobble Gobble.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | David,, I seem to have developed turkey neck on the left side and will wait for it to appear on the right side to balance my book out. LOL I don't mind it a bit and might get a few giggles or comments, but who cares. At least we are alive to appreciate hearing them.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | I can't understand why a Dr would tell you it will come back. He has to be very uncaring to even have it in his mind. All I think should be said is what the chances for recovery are , not what they aren't. I think I would have something to say to him.THats' as bad as the Dr that told me I didn't need rad or chemo , 2 months later he tells me it's back and I need both. Hell, why didn't he do them after surgery? I have you on my prayer list.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 138 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 138 | I believe what you are talking about might be Lymphedema. I didn't have surgery...just chemo and radiation and I got Lymphedema of the neck as well. I had my doctor refer me to physical therapy for lymphatic massage. It has helped quite a bit. The physical therapist even showed my husband how to do the massage from home. You might consider asking your doctor for a referral too.
Nine years out. New normal with limitations, but surviving and living life to the fullest.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 346 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 346 | I too had the swelling and still have a little. You can use the search funtion on here and find lots of info on massaging your chin. When I do it, I find it just about disappears. Then it will eventually come back. My friendly doctor (NOT) told me to learn to live with it. I told him I was learning to live with a lot and that was the least of my problems. At first it didn't seem the massaging was helping. But time does wonders. I would not worry. I still sleep proped up on pillows and have a neck pillow I sleep with. At first I used a reading pillow and just about slept sitting up. It will subside with time and you will learn how to help. Debbie
Partial mandibulectomy and neck dissection 2/3/07. T2NOMO. Had 14 hour operation which included reconstruction of jaw. Reconstruction failed. Some radiation, no chemo. | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | My sons best friend is Dr out of Columbus Ohio right now. He stops to see me when he is passing thru. He stopped yesterdy and we were talking about the neck massage. He told me not to press too hard when doing it because the cartoid artery is getting pressure from the surgery and if I put too much pressure, it could possibly make me black out if I stand up to quick after massaging.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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