#66714 01-02-2008 03:21 PM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 294 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 294 | I will be 18 mos. post TX on 12 January but it seems that one shoe after another keeps falling in my case. I had to have my lower right side wisdom tooth extracted back in early November due to damage from earlier radiation. It took several months post TX for it to start giving me problems but eventually did. The extraction went without incident. In fact, there was very little bone left around the roots of the tooth holding it in place at the time of the extraction. Now, starting about 4 weeks ago, I am experiencing a problem that sounds a lot like what is identified as Trismus and I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem? The most obvious symptom I seem to have is an inability to open my mouth very wide to eat. When I try to do that it feels as if someone is sticking a knife in my jaw, right below my right ear in the hinged area. Very painful to say the least but only when I try to open wide to even eat a sandwich.
This did not start to be a problem immediately after the extraction but more like 3 to 4 weeks following. I had one follow-up visit with my oral surgeon who extracted the tooth about a week after the extraction and he said all looked good at that time. This also followed a regimen of hyperbaric oxygen treatments of which I had 20 prior to the extraction and 10 following. I have an appt. to see the OS again in a few days but am trying to find out what I can at this point. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has dealt with Trismus as I am almost convinced that this is what is going on.
Bill D.
Dx 4/27/06, SCC, BOT, Stage III/IV, Tx 5/25/06 through 7/12/06 - 33 IMRT and 4 chemo, radical right side neck dissection 9/20/06.
| | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 167 Likes: 1 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 167 Likes: 1 | Bill, sorry to hear you are having problems. have you called Dr. Chen and talked to her? I think that would be my first recourse. By the way, how was your trip out of town back at the end of October? We had a blast at the screening at the race track and did several screenings.
Bill B. Dx 10-16-06 Stage 4 T2N2bM0 SCC Left Tonsil,3 nodes. 1st tx 11-28-06, last tx 1-8-07. 3x Cisplatlin, 5fu pump, and Doxetaxel. Modified neck dissection,20 Nodes removed, all clear 02-21-07. HPV+,33 IMRT start 3-22-07 70GY,Completed 05-04-07 | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 | Bill, I have trismus but I don't get pain that sharp when I push against the limits of my jaw opening. It does hurt, though, for example when I need to yawn or anytime when I am really pushing--so it could be symptoms of trismus you are epxeriencing. If it is trismus you are catching it early and may have to push back against it by using your therabite, pain or no pain, to keep the jaw from tightening more.
Nelie
SCC(T2N0M0) part.glossectomy & neck dissect 2/9/05 & 2/25/05.33 IMRT(66 Gy),2 Cisplatin ended 06/03/05.Stage I breast cancer treated 2/05-11/05.Surgery to remove esophageal stricture 07/06, still having dilatations to keep esophagus open.Dysphagia. "When you're going through hell, keep going"
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 64 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 64 | i was wondering does anyone else have ear aches not all the time comes and goes i had cancer in my right vocal cord stage1t1a also hasd chemo and rad this is how i remember my first problems startingafraid it is back i got done with tx aug 13th is there any thing i can do about my ears and sometimes throat spasms im sure my smoking is keeping it irrated just had a bout of broncitus.
Lolita - Stage 1, no node involvement, no distant mets. 6 weeks of radiation plus 6 chemo treatments, one each week.
| | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 | Bill, I have some trismus, which is worse on some days than others. I also concur that yawning is a really bad idea. Besides the jaw, my neck really goes nuts when I yawn.
Is the trismus a sharp pain? Yes and no. On the one hand, it is not like the pain of breaking a bone, but it is more acute than an ache. I would describe it as a sort of burning\cramping type of sensation.
A couple of things that I do to help it. One is jaw exercises --just repeatedly opening, closing, and moving side to side. The second is making sure that my neck and shoulder muscles are as loose as possible. Difficult for me right now, due to aftereffects of bilateral neck dissection, and some residual from my cervical fusion, but when my neck and shoulders are looser, the jaw muscles also do not work as hard.
Hope you are feeling better soon. Jeff SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007 T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007 39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07 Complete response to treatment so far!!
| | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 | The other thing that can help, especially if you are feeling real cramps in the jaw muscle--which I get and they are VERY painful--is to put some kind of heat pack on it. I have one of those neck wraps you can warm in the microwave and I've found it I drape it over the top of my head, the ends are right at the corner of my jaw on each side and the heat really seems to help ease the cramps--and a phsycial therapist told me that actually part of the muscles that control the jaw extend up to higher on your head anyway so I think I may be relaxing those muscles too when I use that wrap that way.
Nelie
SCC(T2N0M0) part.glossectomy & neck dissect 2/9/05 & 2/25/05.33 IMRT(66 Gy),2 Cisplatin ended 06/03/05.Stage I breast cancer treated 2/05-11/05.Surgery to remove esophageal stricture 07/06, still having dilatations to keep esophagus open.Dysphagia. "When you're going through hell, keep going"
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Lolita,
I know you are a newbie to posting but it is better for you if you start your own post with your own question than to tag onto another poster's question.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 137 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: May 2006 Posts: 137 | Oh yeah, I've got trimus and had it since treatment ended. I don't do anything for it, but massage and stretch those muscles. I think the rad takes nice elastic tissue and turns it into shoe leather.
I've also got a significant hearing loss in one ear, and it feels plugged all the time, like it's full of water. My ENT says 'it's because you've been radiated', but that's no longer an acceptable answer.
dx 2/13/06. modified radical neck dissection 3/9/06 multiple biopsies of upper airway and direct laryngoscopy. 1 of 47 lymph nodes positive for metastatic undifferentiated carcinoma (lymphoepithelioma). Unknown primary. Finished radiation 5/24/06.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I didn't have a ND but I did have 35 IMRT's. I also didn't have a Peg but I did have "lockjaw" for a few days after rad ended where I communicated with pad and pen. Since then I have had zero problems with anything close to trimus so I doubt it's a long term side effect of rad alone.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Bill,
Another possibility is that you have developed a TMJ problem. Heat, as Nelie said, can help you out for either. Moist heat is the best and I suggest soaking a wash cloth in warm water and keeping it on the area until it cools and then start all over again. You might also start taking 600 mg of ibuprophen 3-4 times a day and see if that helps.
Your surgeon should be able to diagnosis exactly what is going on.
Let us know how you make out.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
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