#60845 05-15-2007 03:10 AM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 167 Gold Member (100+ posts) | OP Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 167 | Hi all,
When does the tightness in the neck after ND start to feel better?
As you may recall my Dad had a bilateral ND March 13/07. I know it's still fresh only being 2 months post surgery. His neck feels like he has a rope around it being pulled on both ends. When his face swells (it goes up a bit from time to time) it gets even tighter. This tight feeling is driving him crazy.
When did your tightness loosen up?
Thanks, LisaB
My Dad (Sam) at age 69 dx SCC Base of Tongue T1N2C Well-Diff - March 2006.
35 IMRT rads & 3 Cisplatin chemos - Apr-June/06. Nodes shrunk 50% Dr's suggest ND. Negative PET - he declined ND.
March/07 Had Bilateral ND. No Cancer!! Doing Well!
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#60846 05-15-2007 03:24 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 | I am just over a month after bilateral modified radical ND. They maintained jugular, spinal accessory nerve and SMM, but most lymph nodes and other "contents" were removed.
I find that my neck is looser when I am sure to flex and rotate it every hour or so, and be sure to walk or otherwise move around. Sometimes, it will really "cinch up", like a belt tightening, but moving it around for a little bit helps.
My docs tell me to keep both my neck and jaw in motion and flexible, and my recovery will be faster and better, both from the ND and the Radiation. I also have the added problem of having had a two level cervical disk fusion in February, so have stiffness from that as well.
Good luck! Jeff SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007 T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007 39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07 Complete response to treatment so far!!
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#60847 05-15-2007 04:11 AM | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 26 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 26 | My surgery was 11/28/2006 and my neck is still tight and numb although, I have a good bit of flexibility. The left side of my tongue is also still totally numb. Very annoying but, certainly beats the alternative.
11/28/2006. Left lateral tongue, partial glossectomy, T3, moderately differentiated. 12 lymph nodes from neck, all clear. IMRT, 30X, ended 02/21/2007.
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#60848 05-15-2007 05:17 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 | Yeah, numbness is a whole different deal, as is the nerve "recovery", when the upper part of the nerve starts firing -- you get some interesting sensations.
My numbness is pretty much all the way around at trachea level, with the skin right under the jaw line very sensitive now that the nerves are starting to come back. ROM is good, however. Fortunately, having had my fusion and some other surgery, these sensations are fairly familiar, so I do not freak out over nothing. Jeff SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007 T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007 39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07 Complete response to treatment so far!!
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#60849 05-15-2007 06:58 AM | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | Lisa, Is he getting physical therapy? If not, he should be to help loosen the tightness in the neck and achieve greater mobility. Ask the dr for a script and a referral to a good PT who is used to dealing with NDs.
Take care, Eileen
---------------------- Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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#60850 05-15-2007 04:33 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Lisa,
I echo what Eileen has said. There is no substitute for physical therapy. The longer your dad waits to get that started, the longer it will take to get full movement back. I did exercises with the therapist, but what helped me the most was what I did at home.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
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#60851 05-16-2007 12:55 AM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 167 Gold Member (100+ posts) | OP Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 167 | Yes he does his exercises daily. The PT came and showed him what to do then at the weekly visits she just came and chatted; so they don't bother having her come. He can move around pretty good and does his exercises. He's up and about daily too.
So how long into things was it before your tightness let up?
I guess it all just takes time.
Thanks LisaB
My Dad (Sam) at age 69 dx SCC Base of Tongue T1N2C Well-Diff - March 2006.
35 IMRT rads & 3 Cisplatin chemos - Apr-June/06. Nodes shrunk 50% Dr's suggest ND. Negative PET - he declined ND.
March/07 Had Bilateral ND. No Cancer!! Doing Well!
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#60852 05-16-2007 09:55 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | Hi Lisa,
Yes, it takes time and everyone is different in healing times and everyone's surgery was different. It's important to keep up the exercises faithfully and things will surely improve.
Perhaps another PT can be found that will help more than the first one that is more interested in talking than doing.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
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#60853 05-20-2007 04:27 AM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 167 Gold Member (100+ posts) | OP Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 167 | Thanks again.
My Dad says when it's tight he doesn't like to do his exercises he thinks it will make it tighter. He's having a hard time with the tightness again. I don't know what to suggest. He finished his 2 weeks of steriods and yesterday he took some more because he's nervouse the throat is tightening.
How the heck are you suppose to know the differance between 'regular' tigntess from ND vs abnormal tightness in the throat effecting breathing?
It's so scary and confusing.
Thanks LisaB
My Dad (Sam) at age 69 dx SCC Base of Tongue T1N2C Well-Diff - March 2006.
35 IMRT rads & 3 Cisplatin chemos - Apr-June/06. Nodes shrunk 50% Dr's suggest ND. Negative PET - he declined ND.
March/07 Had Bilateral ND. No Cancer!! Doing Well!
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