#60275 02-12-2007 03:16 PM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 | Well, I got the results of my second scan. The good news is that the original tumor site looks pretty good. The bad news is that there was some "infiltrate" in my upper lung. My docs told me that this is probably be aspirational Pneumonia, but could be mets to the lung.
They gave me Azitromycin to treat the potential infection. I also have a swallow eval on Thursday and a PT scan of the lung in 3 weeks.
I felt fine when I went in, but now I have chills, fatigue, nausea, diarrhea. I guess this could be due to the antibiotics.
Anyway, I don't really know how worried to be. I guess I'll just wait until I find out...
Clint
Age 46; SCC BOT T3N1M0l dx 9/06 Cisplatin x3; radiation x42 Completed tx 10/31; Selective neck dissection 12/06
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#60276 02-12-2007 03:33 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 493 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 493 | Clint,
I'll pray that it's not a met to your lung and the anitbiotic clears it up.
Stay Strong Tim
Tim Stoj 60 yr old. Dx Jun 06 with BOT Stage IV. Neck dissesction on 19 Jun 06. Started Tx on 21 Aug 06/completed 33 IMRTs and 3 CT (2 Cisplat & 1 Carboplat) on 5 Oct 06.
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#60277 02-12-2007 04:02 PM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 | Thanks Tim. I appreciate it!
Age 46; SCC BOT T3N1M0l dx 9/06 Cisplatin x3; radiation x42 Completed tx 10/31; Selective neck dissection 12/06
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#60278 02-12-2007 06:39 PM | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,627 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,627 | Hi Clint,
There have been many posters on this board over the years that have had a report such as yours and it turned out to be a pneumonia or some damage from radiation, etc. Other things then cancer. I'm betting on the pneumonia and won't uncross my fingers until you get the confirmation! Take a deep breath and expect a positive outcome, you deserve it. Minnie
SCC Left Mandible. Jaw replaced with bone from leg. Neck disection, 37 radiation treatments. Recurrence 8-28-07, stage 2, tongue. One third of tongue removed 10-4-07. 5-23-08 chemo started for tumor behind swallowing passage, Our good friend and much loved OCF member Minnie has been lost to the disease (RIP 10-29-08). We will all miss her greatly.
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#60279 02-13-2007 04:23 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 624 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 624 | The chances are pretty high that it is just inflammation or infection -- aspiration of food post-treatment (including "silent aspiration" when you don't know you're doing it) is not uncommon. That sent my husband Barry into the hospital for 3 days a week after his treatment ended, with an aspiration pneumonia.
When he had his first PET/CT scan two months later, the radiologist saw uptake in the right lung (where he had the pneumonia) and rightly ID'd it as residual infection, although Barry had pretty heavy-duty IV antibiotics while in hospital. The doctors said it can take 3-4 months for this to resolve. They gave him a chest Xray after the PET/CT as a baseline and then a course of another (oral) antibiotic, then a month later another chest Xray. No sign of anything on that. The second PET/CT (3 months after teh first) was also clear.
It is actually rather rare (per our MO and ENT) for chest mets to show up so soon after treatment -- far more likely to be infection.
An experienced radiologist who sees and reads lots and lots of head/neck cancer scans is going to be more certain about what is infection, inflammation or healing (all of which will show up as a "hot spot" ) and what is cancer -- one reason for trying to get to a center that treats a lot of oral cancer, when at all possible. An inexperienced radiologist is going to be super-conservative and thus there is an increased risk of "false positive" diagnoses.
Gail
CG to husband Barry, dx. 7/21/05, age 66, SCC rgt. tonsil, BOT, 2 nodes (stg. IV), HPV+, tonsillectomy, 7x carboplatin, 35x tomoTherapy IMRT w/ Ethyol @ Johns Hopkins, thru treatment 9/28/05, HPV vaccine trial 12/06-present. Looking good!
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#60280 02-13-2007 04:32 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 69 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 69 | Hi Clint,
I am almost 3 years out and last June a spot showed up on one of my lungs during a routine CT scan. The doctor repeated the scan in October and again last month and the spot has not changed at all which tells them it is not cancer but rather radiation damage, scar tissue, etc. So try not to worry too much (although I know that is easy to say and hard to do) and we'll all be thinking good thoughts till you know the outcome.
Pam
SCC Base of Tongue Stage IV- 2/04 - 40 Rads 1/2 conventional, 1/2 IMRT; 3 chemo treatments consisting of Carboplatin/Taxol/5-FU; Right Radical Neck Dissection 7/04; scans and pathology clear
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#60281 02-13-2007 07:46 AM | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | Sounds like you ae having an adverse reaction to the Azitromycin. I have the same symptoms to that, amoxcilian, penicilin, etc. etc. Sometimes it takes several days before the reaction shows up, some I'm in the bathroom within a half hour. The two I have been taking with success for upper respiratory infection are Cipro and Levaquin. I would call the doctor and tell him about your symptoms and get a scipt change.
There was an interesting article in January Discovery Magazine about how these antibiotics destroy all the good bacteria in our systems leading to problems which can cause C. Diff. Cipro and Levaquin are in a different class and until recently hadn't been that category.
My CT scans also showed 'stuff' in my lungs and it was scarring from radiation and other junk from pneumonia. Here's hoping yours is the same. Hope you feel better soon.
Take care, Eileen
---------------------- Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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#60282 02-13-2007 12:49 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Clint,
I'm reading these posts with agreat deal of interest.
I had my 1st post Tx CAT appx 8 weeks after Tx. My RO told me I was all clear except a little spot on my lung but not to worry, he said. As I thought to myself, then why did he mention it?, I asked him why I shouldn't worry and was told spots are common in the lungs this close to the end of Rad Tx. Well that didn't satisfy me at all and we agreed to wait 3 more months and get another CAT which was just done last Friday. Now I have to wait until the 19th to find out my results. Waiting sucks the big one IMO.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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#60283 02-14-2007 09:25 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 160 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 160 | Clint, I just went through the exact thing you are going through. In Nov. had ct/pet scan done, and it showed a spot on my upper lung. Went to a thoracic doc who put me on antibiotics for 10 days, also told me to take Mucinex to help break up anything in there. I just had my ct scan done on the second of this month and the spot is gone. What a relief!! So I'm praying that you will have the same result. Take care.
Dx3/20/06 SCC,BOT,1N Tx:5cycles Carbo/Taxol, Rad:35x, brachytherapy:6x, completed 7/24/06
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#60284 02-14-2007 09:27 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 160 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 160 | David, Also keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. Let us know what's going on with you when you find out. Linda
Dx3/20/06 SCC,BOT,1N Tx:5cycles Carbo/Taxol, Rad:35x, brachytherapy:6x, completed 7/24/06
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