#53985 09-23-2003 08:06 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4 Member | OP Member Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4 | When did you guys start eating real food again - and by real food I mean a pizza or a burger. And when did you feel good enough to go back to work? Thanks for the responses. | | |
#53986 09-23-2003 08:44 AM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Hi Jen, pizza was the first thing on my solid food list and it was about 1 month after treatment ended that I ate it, along with a Ceasar salad. It tasted great. I did eat some rare cooked steak prior to that. I had my first burger around 2 months.
I work at home so I had the luxury of being able to slowly phase back in. I would say allow yourself a good three months, maybe more. It really did take 6 months to feel somewhat normal again. There is always a risk of going back too soon.
I didn't have a feeding tube, lost 60 lbs and a lot of muscle/strength so that may have played a role. I am eating like a horse today, have gained over 20 lbs back and I'm lifting weights.
Everyone is a little different and reacts differently to treatment.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#53987 09-23-2003 11:02 AM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 | Hi Jen,
I started feeling much better at around 2 weeks and it got better and better for about a month. that was about 85% "normal" for me. Then it took 6 months for another 5% and so on. Still had some fatigue issues but fore the most part could work at the same level. If his job is strenuous then he'll need more time. If it is mostly a desk job he'll might do fine even after 1-2 months. Everybody is different so don't worry if it takes longer. Watch out for depression it can show up sometimes.
As far as eating I had a large prime rib one week after the treatments ended. (a treat from some friends) I had to go slow but it was fabulous! (for some reason beef always tasted like it should) He can expect to eat slowly and have to be cautious (dry food can be a choke hazard) for quite a while. I used a lot of whole milk as a replacement for salivia during meals. For me it seemed to work much better than water. Pizza is still a bit of trouble even 30 months out. This is true of all the breads and crackers. Bread dipped in olive oil is a good way.
Mark, 21 Year survivor, SCC right tonsil, 3 nodes positive, one with extra-capsular spread. I never asked what stage (would have scared me anyway) Right side tonsillectomy, radical neck dissection right side, maximum radiation to both sides, no chemo, no PEG, age 40 when diagnosed.
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#53988 09-23-2003 11:57 AM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,163 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,163 | Hi Jen, I am 8 weeks post up with a neck disection and a pech flap. I just started radiation two days ago. I am able to eat solid food but it is a slow process and my mouth gets sore. I have a peg tube and am inputting 8 to 10 cans of Jevity per day. If I had to eat 3000 calories per day it would take me all day to eat. I'm told I have to eat to exercise my new mouth muscles and thats what i'm doing. I have trouble opening my mouth real wide like pre-op but it's getting better. I went out for dinner yesterday after radiation with my brother and he was done eating a cup of soup and a steak sandwich and I was about 1/3 done with a bowl of soup and about 1/5 done with a hamburger. As you can see real slow going.
I am a roofing and siding estimator and I made enough pre-op 7/31/03 that I am covered until next March, which is about 5 months post rad. I plan on being ready to work mid March. My wife is a nurse and we were always frugal so we are lucky that way. I wish your husband all the best, Dan
Daniel Bogan DX 7/16/03 Right tonsil,SCC T4NOMO. right side neck disection, IMRT Radiation x 33.
Recurrance in June 05 in right tonsil area. Now receiving palliative chemo (Erbitux) starting 3/9/06
Our good friend and loved member of the forum has passed away RIP Dannyboy 7-16-2006
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#53989 09-23-2003 03:05 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 541 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 541 | Hi Jen ,like Gary, it took me about 6 months before I returned to my previous job. Actually if not for the severe depression I was in , I could have been able to resume my work earlier.I began working for just a few hours every day for three weeks then switched to full time until now. Since then I have taken up 100% of my duties. As for food, I could eat solid food a month post treatment and with trial and error, the food list grew bigger and bigger. I started from soft vegetables, melon, fish and congee to ribs, steak and chicken wings. The process is gradual and slow.Pizza, biscuits and sandwiches are no problem with a full glass of water. Two years post diagnosis, with constant exercise, I feel even more energetic than when I was young. So stay positive and there is always hope.
Karen stage 4 tonsil cancer diagnosed in 9/01.
Karen stage 4B (T3N3M0)tonsil cancer diagnosed in 9/2001.Concurrent chemo-radiation treatment ( XRT x 48 /Cisplatin x 4) ended in 12/01. Have been in remission ever since.
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#53990 09-23-2003 05:05 PM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 189 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 189 | Hmmmm....now I'm starting to question things.
Granted, Dennis has always told the doctors that he can't eat normally. (We are 10 months out of chemo and rad) To this day, the doctor's tend to brush it off, and ask how he has managed to maintain his weight. He always gives me credit due to the Mega-shakes.
They tend to grip him by the shoulder and tell him to love his wife. No real answers.
The latest scans are clean....no mets.....questionable uptake on the PET in the tongue area, but no visable signs.
Should we accept this as the downfall to his treatment and just get on with life....even if it is forever limited to fluids?
Just wondering, Mandi
Husband diagnosed with stage III tonsil and floor of mouth cancer in August 2002. Three rounds of chemo/42 RAD treatments. Upper right lung lobectomy in March 2003. (Benign)
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#53991 09-23-2003 07:18 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 458 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 458 | I had tongue cancer, so my surgery was different, but I did go through the radiation part twice. After the surgery, about 10 days to 2 weeks from release from hospital I was back to eating pretty much normally. After radiation, about 3 weeks the first time, 2 weeks the second time.
First time around It took about a month before I went back to work part time, mostly because my energy level was trashed. Second time around seems I accidentally went back to work about a week and a half after finishing radiation.
I know everyone is different, but it seems that 10 months out is a long time unless there is extenuating circumstances.
As far as the questionable uptake on the PET, as part of the healing process the muscles tend to use up glucose, which shows up as higher uptake on PET scan. Next scan should show less. Bob
SCC Tongue, stage IV diagnosed Sept, 2002, 1st radical neck dissection left side in Sept, followed by RAD/Chemo. Discovered spread to right side nodes March 2003, second radical neck dissection April, followed by more RAD/Chemo.
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#53992 09-28-2003 07:03 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 41 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: May 2003 Posts: 41 | Hi Jen, I was able to eat by mouth 2 months post radiation (soup/cereal). 3 month post, I could eat more solid foods, but not much taste. Taste went from "horrible" during radiation to no taste after radiation. At 4 months, taste started to come back, but would last only a few bites. Kinda frustrating to taste a few bites, then nothing. I am now at more than 1 year post and can eat most anything except fruits (they still taste bad). O-O
Head and neck SCC TXN2bM0 stage IV Finished treatment 6/02
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#53993 09-28-2003 10:12 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 | i went back to work 2 months after rad(35)/chemo.
peg came out 1 yr after treatment.
after 2 yrs, i have just started really eating again... thanks to two esogas ballon sessions... a third to come... secondary rad messed things up down there. it was the size of the wire used for a large paperclip. now it is 80% of normal... which i think is 50 mm or about 2 inches.
real food tastes great, work is a pleasure.
cu, larryb | | |
#53994 09-29-2003 06:45 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 39 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: May 2003 Posts: 39 | Hi,
My friend Eric is four weeks past RAD and still just drinking Boost. Yesterday he tried some very runny eggs and immediately vomited. He still is on lost of pain meds. Any suggestions for the best foods to try first? He hasn't eaten solid food in about six weeks.
(Mark I can't believe you were able to eat prime rib... awesome!)
Jack
Caregiver to Eric Squamous Cell Carcinoma, L. Tonsil Stage 3 (T2-N1-M0) 5 Years Cancer Free Now
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