#53534 07-07-2004 08:47 AM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 | Good point about the protein from soy Ed, I tend to believe that my tissue is more similar to cow than soy plants. Therefore I allow myself to eat prime rib for protein. Beans of all kind usually provide pretty high protein, but rare beef must be like 95%? Gary, I liked your "dead" food comment. A quote from "that book" I mentioned earlier in this thread is: "If it dosen't rot or sprout, throw it out!" It is a reference to the "foods" that will keep in th fridge for months without spoiling. There is something unnatural about that. (preservatives)
Mark, 21 Year survivor, SCC right tonsil, 3 nodes positive, one with extra-capsular spread. I never asked what stage (would have scared me anyway) Right side tonsillectomy, radical neck dissection right side, maximum radiation to both sides, no chemo, no PEG, age 40 when diagnosed.
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#53535 07-08-2004 03:36 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Mark, I have worked in the meat industry for over twenty years. The only thing better than a nice ribeye on the grill is a nice rare cut of properly cooked prime rib. I am salivating as we speak! I do try to eat healthy other than my weakness for ribeye. It really helped me gain weight and get my red blood back in line. Once my cholesterol went from 130 to 170 I started tapering off, though. I ate squid a couple of days before my last blood tests and I now know I should not do that for 3 days before the test. Got to go...eat now! Just a few leftovers...Spanish style paella with sausage, chicken, artichokes, pork, rice, tomatoes, onions, bell peppers... Ed
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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#53536 07-08-2004 06:39 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,244 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,244 | And a glass of red wine to wash it down, Ed? Helen
SCC Base of tongue, (TISN0M0) laser surgery, 10/01 and 05/03 no clear margins. Radial free flap graft to tonsil pillar, partial glossectomy, left neck dissection 08/04
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#53537 07-08-2004 07:15 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 458 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 458 | At least you can identify what you ate. Just had lunch in the factory lunchroom. Not too sure what any of it was - some was green, some brown, some white, some spicy. Asked what it was, was told "don't worry, good for the man"
-Just point at the picture and go "wo yao" (I want)-
Bob
SCC Tongue, stage IV diagnosed Sept, 2002, 1st radical neck dissection left side in Sept, followed by RAD/Chemo. Discovered spread to right side nodes March 2003, second radical neck dissection April, followed by more RAD/Chemo.
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#53538 07-10-2004 01:21 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 207 Platinum Member (200+ posts) | Platinum Member (200+ posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 207 | Bob, you make me laugh... I spent a couple of summers at a school in SW China and remember well going through the food lines and wondering what exactly I was getting...
I did notice that the Chinese students ate a LOT more volume than we Americans, yet we were the "fat" ones... something to do with our penchant for candy and sodas I guess...
Tongue cancer (SCC), diagnosed Oct. 2003 (T2 N0 M0). Surgery to remove tumor. IMRT Radiation 30x in Dec 2003 - Jan. 2004. Recurrence lymph node - radical neck dissection June 2004. Second round of rad/chemo treatments ended Sept. 2004.
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#53539 02-04-2006 02:28 PM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 8 Member | Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 8 | Debbie Try the Gawler Foudation, www.gawler.org, for a book "Recipe for life" Dorothy Edgerow. Fantastic vegetarian recipes with an eye to the person with cancer. I did a residential course at Gawlers and the chef cooks around the book for her meals... as good as food gets. Lots of variation, mostly organic but you do have to like vegetables. (and 70% cocoa chocolate!) kem
scc rt tonsil, T1N2A, primary excised with radical neck disection, 35 radio trtmnts, 1x cisplatin.
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#53540 04-28-2006 10:53 AM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 32 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 32 | I've been a vegatarian for over 20 years. It didn't stop me from getting cancer, but my DRs hace thus far been amazed at both my high tolerance to treatments and my massive response. I'm at MGH in Boston, where they see lots and lots of people, and they say I have been the best they have seen on both accounts. I'd like to believe my diet and resulting overall health have a lot to do with this. And while some of my friends have suggested I introduce some meat and fish back into my diet for added protein and fats, well I refuse to believe that adding artery-clogging meats and cheese, mercury-filled fish and hormone-infused poultry back into my diet would somehow make me healthier. I would consider some of your positive points about meat in the above posts if the industry produced healthy wholesome products, but since they mostly feed their cattle and birds fillers, antibiotics and cement, well...I'll stick to my vegi diet, which has more than enough protein and nutrition to keep me smiling through this whole ordeal so far.
BTW: organic dark chocolate is actually extremely healthy and full of antioxidants... so, eat up!
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#53541 04-28-2006 04:42 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 | What interesting posts- I had not seen these before. The only problem I now have is it's 10 pm and I want a grilled ribeye.  Amy
CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease
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#53542 04-28-2006 05:15 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 64 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,918 Likes: 64 | Please note tht because of the controversy, that "Beating Cancer With Nutrition" is not one of our selections on the OCF page. I have some respect for the people at Quackwatch, and while I have NOT taken a good look at this book, we decided based on their comments to leave it off our list. Clearly we just have a few token books here for people to get a taste of what's available at Amazon though our link. Amazon sells it all, credible and otherwise. Where this particular book falls, I can not judge. We just want people to review the hundreds of cancer selections that Amazon has to offer, and find usable information or inspiration there. And we like to make our 3% commission when you go there through our link as well...the wolf is always at our door.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | |
#53543 05-29-2006 01:17 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 69 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: May 2006 Posts: 69 | Hey,
I've found lots of articles that eatting specific fruits and veggies help to build stronger immune system... like deep green, yellow and orange vegetables (carrots, spinach, sweet potatoes, apricots, muskmelons, tomatoes, watermelons, etc)
My mom used to be a vegetarian, but started eatting meat and fish to help her with her low iron (instead of popin pills)
Thanks H
the world brought me to my knees... Update: Feb 10/08: Mom passed away on Jan 31,08 - infection (unknown) in her lungs with her weakened immune system resulted in cardiac arrest - T2NO SCC of tongue surgery 6/30/06, SCC left neck and lungs detected Sept 07, 7 weeks rad/3 rounds chemo had no effect.
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