#47353 10-18-2006 12:35 PM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 | Hi y'all,
I'm still in the process. So far, the side effects are almost exactly as y'all have lead me to expect, and I'm grateful for the information.
Anyway, I know things are going to get worse before they get better. However, I'm trying to stay positive.
Towards that end, I have a question. When can I expect to have a beer? I know it sounds silly, but it's one of those things (along with pizza), that I'm craving. When can I reasonably expect to eat & drink quasi-normally again?
Teamshrink
Age 46; SCC BOT T3N1M0l dx 9/06 Cisplatin x3; radiation x42 Completed tx 10/31; Selective neck dissection 12/06
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#47354 10-18-2006 02:28 PM | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 378 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 378 | Glad to hear from you and it sounds like you're doing a good job staying positive.
It's different for everyone on when taste comes back and how quickly it becomes quasi-normal again but I recall Jack had that beer about 6 weeks post treatment. Okay he wasn't able to drink much of it but it was just the idea that he could taste something he wanted. He was was a happy man that day.
Salty taste came back first and sweet was around the 3 month mark. He spit out a lot of food before he found things that worked for him but it keeps getting better.
Small bites, lots of water, a good sense of humor, and a belief that this too shall pass is my best advice. Jack's swallowing is a work in progress but it's amazing how much more he can eat now than when treatment ended.
By the way if you're going for a Guiness make sure they can build it properly so you get the full benefit.
Regards JoAnne
JoAnne - Caregiver to husband, cancer rt. tonsil, mets to soft palate, BOT, 7 lymph nodes - T3N2BM0, stage 4. Robotic assisted surgery, radical neck dissection 2/06; 30 IMTX treatments and 4 cycles of cisplatin completed June 06.
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#47355 10-18-2006 02:39 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 | Teamshrink-Do you, by any chance have a PEG? If you do, then pour one down  If not, it will all depend on how soon soon you can comfortably swallow. I'll wager the beer will come before the pizza! Amy
CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease
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#47356 10-18-2006 03:18 PM | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | OP Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 | Thanks y'all. The dietician at MD Anderson said not to drink beer because a) it irritates the membrane and b) you can end up with "chemo brain" She said that this is a long-term fogginess that results from mixing alcohol with chemo. She seemed serious. Was she just kidding me? 'Cuz I can swallow enough right now for a wee Guiness 
Age 46; SCC BOT T3N1M0l dx 9/06 Cisplatin x3; radiation x42 Completed tx 10/31; Selective neck dissection 12/06
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#47357 10-18-2006 04:24 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 | TS, ask your Chemo Doc what he thinks. John's Oncologist is of the mindset that people who are fighting this disease deserve some " wee creature comforts" along the way. You might want to explore what those are for you. Amy
CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease
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#47358 10-19-2006 06:17 AM | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | Teamshrink, I was able to drink beer about 3 weeks after rad and white wine about 4 weeks, but I had no chemo. I had less trouble with beer than I did with soda which I hd to make certain was absoltuley flat. I couldn't eat pizza at all for years. However, make certain your mouth is clear of all sores before pouring in the alcohol. Otherwise they will take longer or forever to heal.
Take care, Eileen
---------------------- Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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#47359 10-19-2006 09:29 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 19 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 19 | My hubby refuses to drink because of the risk factor, even though his doctor told him an occasional cocktail would be ok. But the doctor did not tell him it would be ok until about 2 months after treatment was finished. Treatment was 35 IMRT and 3 Cisplatin chemo | | |
#47360 10-20-2006 03:52 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 248 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 248 | This post reminds me of a female comedian that was reading the warning labels on the alcohol bottle that stated that if pregnant,drinking this could be hazardous to your pregnancy and her reply was " Funny if it was not for alcohol I wouldn't be pregnant in the first place.
Mark D. Stage 3 Nasopharynx dx10/99 T2N3M0 40xrad 2x Cisplatin 5FU. acute leuk 1998.
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#47361 10-20-2006 11:25 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I haven't tried to drink yet...haven't even felt like I wanted one either, but I did have a cheeseburger w/ ket, pickles, onions about 5 weeks post tx and a small slice of pizza, sans the crust (like a meat lovers version) about 6 weeks out and I could taste most everything for the first couple of chews. I loved the crunch of the pickles and onions.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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#47362 10-20-2006 01:38 PM | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 82 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 82 | I still can't drink beer or wine yet (10 weeks post treatment) because it still burns a little to much. I have had pizza, but right now I like it a little more without the sauce for the same reasons-the tomato and spices are still a little irritating. I had trouble with the crust too until I hit about week 8, then my mouth seemed to be producing enough saliva to get some crust down with something to drink.
Believe me, I am looking forward to beer and wine again too. It was one of the thinks that I would daydream about on the radiation table (that and food).
DX on 05/01/06 with SCC of right tongue. 05/11/06 surgery-tumor 1.2cm & 4 cm clear margins & parital glos. & neck dissection with removal of 34 nodes/1 positive at 4mm)T1N1MO 35 IGRT & 3 cycles of chemo (1 cisplatin & 2 carbo-complete on 8/9/06.
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