#39532 12-31-2005 12:17 PM | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1 Member | OP Member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1 | I am going to be with my brother for his neck surgery and was hoping to get some idea about the situation I'm going into so I can best help him. He has just completed 30 days of radiation with 2 chemotherapies and is pretty sick and can't talk right now. He is having a neck dissection and a radiation pellet implanted in the base of his tongue in February. I already know that during the 1st few days my contact with him will be limited due to the radiation levels. Will he be able to talk (at a whisper or normally)? Will the arm on the side of the dissection be imobile? I was thinking of getting him a disposable cell phone for him to communicate with me when I can't be in the room. I would appreciate any suggestions on what he might expect to happen to him in the hospital. What will his needs might be that I can assist him with? | | |
#39533 12-31-2005 01:52 PM | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,019 | Cori, I'm not sure I can answer some of the bigger questions you have there but before you get the cell phone you should check with the hospital to be sure cell phones work in the hospital rooms. The hospital I was in right after the end of my treatment has something internal they use that blocks cell phone frequencies except in certain outer hallways. I couldn't use my cell from my room. They did give you a regular phone line to call out on, though, for a few bucks a day.
Nelie
SCC(T2N0M0) part.glossectomy & neck dissect 2/9/05 & 2/25/05.33 IMRT(66 Gy),2 Cisplatin ended 06/03/05.Stage I breast cancer treated 2/05-11/05.Surgery to remove esophageal stricture 07/06, still having dilatations to keep esophagus open.Dysphagia. "When you're going through hell, keep going"
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#39534 01-01-2006 03:19 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 624 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 624 | None of the three hospitals I have had recent experience with allow use of cell phones in the rooms -- they said they can interfer with certain monitoring equipment. However, all had in-room phones and these could be hooked up to the bed so that patients with limited mobility could use them. You should ask about this.
Gail
CG to husband Barry, dx. 7/21/05, age 66, SCC rgt. tonsil, BOT, 2 nodes (stg. IV), HPV+, tonsillectomy, 7x carboplatin, 35x tomoTherapy IMRT w/ Ethyol @ Johns Hopkins, thru treatment 9/28/05, HPV vaccine trial 12/06-present. Looking good!
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#39535 01-01-2006 04:15 AM | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 105 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 105 | When I was in the hospital last year my famuly was surprised that they were allowed to use their cell phones every where. The only restriction was the use of the picture phone. Due to the new hippa laws, they banned the use of the camera built into most current phones. It was okay to talk, just no pictures.
As far as the use of your brothers arm. I had a neck dissection on the left side. I had some weakness in my left arm. Some of the strength came back, but I can still tell.
Good luck with everything. We'll be thinking about you and your brother.
John
SCC base of tongue. Diagnosed as stage IV, Sept. '04. Partial glossectomy, Radical neck dissection left side, 37 Radiation sessions, Chemo x 7 weeks. Finished treatments January '05. Cancer surivor!
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#39536 01-01-2006 08:45 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 837 | Cori,
I had a radiation implant in my tongue after I finished the external beam treatments. (This was 16 years ago, so there may be some differences now.) As you are aware, there are strict limitations on visitors' (and nurses') time in the patient's room because of the radiation levels there -- my husband was only allowed in for about 5 or 10 minutes in a 24-hour period. My mouth felt a bit clumsy due to the "hardware" associated with the implanted tubes, but otherwise I was able to talk and sip on liquids.
The major problem I recall from that period was boredom because of the minimal amount of human contact. Try to check with the hospital about what he will be allowed to have with him (I suspect some of the other posters above are correct that a cell phone won't be permitted). I imagine that anything he can bring along to keep occupied and keep his mind off the "solitary confinement" would be welcome.
Cathy
Tongue SCC (T2M0N0), poorly differentiated, diagnosed 3/89, partial glossectomy and neck dissection 4/89, radiation from early June to late August 1989
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#39537 01-01-2006 12:57 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 150 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 150 | My dad had a neck dissection and can move his arm-it is different than before the surgery though. Nothing drastic.
Dad Treated for T2N1M0 Tonsil Cancer August 2005. 35 IMRT radiation, 3 doses Cisplatin. Selective Modified Neck Dissection November.
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#39538 01-01-2006 06:56 PM | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 126 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 126 | Cori,
There are several types of neck dissections. There is the radical which removes the SCM muscle, the jagular vein, the spinal accessories nerve and lymph nodes. Then there is the Modified radical which preserves the nerve and there are others where only the lymph nodes are removed.
What affects the movement of the shoulder or arm on the side of the dissection is weather the spinal accessory nerve is preserved, removed or damaged during the surgery.
My family member had a modified radical neck dissection where the nerve was saved. There is no damage or loss of movement to arm or shoulder on the side of the dissection. The hospital stay was two days and recovery time from the surgery was about 6 weeks.
Radiation and chemo however were done following the surgery.
Best wishes to you and your brother.
CG to wife; Jan 2005 DX SCC Tongue T2N1MO; RND surgery Mar 2005; 35 XRT and 4 cisplatin completed Jul 2005. Dec 2006 tongue surgery, Scar tissue no cancer. Feb 2010 neck node FNA - negative. 2010 ORN right jaw plus fracture 2015 ORN left jaw plus fracture Feb 2016 Lower jaw reconstruction by Fibula free flap+titanium plate - Permanent G-tube June 2016 Difficulty breathing - Permanent Trachea tube Dec 2019 DX Cervical cancer - Stage 1 - Surgery Jan 16 2020. 15-20 esophagus/larynx dilations
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#39539 01-01-2006 07:53 PM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,384 Likes: 1 | Cori, As Vin has said, there are several different modifications to the radical neck dissection. The good news is that he should be able to use his arm fairly well just not play tennis for a while. If the accessory nerve is involved then he will have some trouble raising his arm sideways. With time and therapy even that will not be a serious problem.
Mark, 21 Year survivor, SCC right tonsil, 3 nodes positive, one with extra-capsular spread. I never asked what stage (would have scared me anyway) Right side tonsillectomy, radical neck dissection right side, maximum radiation to both sides, no chemo, no PEG, age 40 when diagnosed.
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