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#35160 05-12-2007 03:03 AM
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My mom had her stress test done yesterday, she failed. The cardiologist who was working with her asked her if she was in pain when on the treadmill. She answered no each time. It seems that the bottom of her heart and up the one side isn't getting enough blood flow. The cardiologist at our local hospital offered to do a cath test last night, she needed approval from ordering doctor(who is her cardiologist in Philly for the ok for surgery) and he said no. He said that he would call her Monday morning. For all of you who know what I've been dealing with at the onc's office with the staff: they hit another fly ball yesterday. The girl called to ask me if mom had her echo done again, dr wanted to know. That wasn't what was ordered!! I was so stressed and fed up that I told her that I couldn't talk to her. My question to you all is, have any of you gone through this? I know her heart has to be taken care of first, but I'm afraid for her for her cancer....
I hope this is making sense I slept for about 20 minutes last night. I keep telling my mom that this result found is actually a gift if you look at it the right way....you may have to bend down and twist a little to the right and strain your eyes to see it, but it is a gift. We didn't know about her heart, the cancer and god only knows what else may crop up!! She was a walking time bomb, she's going to be ok, this is just another speedbump on her way to recovery. Any advice for this caregiver would be most appreciated. It's difficult to remain positive, but I believe that any negativity will not help. She was soooo disappointed about her surgery being cancelled, and all I keep hearing in my head is when she turned to me and started crying, "Donna, I don't want to die, I'm not ready." I was beside myself and somehow managed to say very calmly, "Then don't. Start fighting!"


Donna
CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
#35161 05-12-2007 06:14 AM
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In the medical business they need to "tune her up" before they will proceed with surgery. This is pretty common when there is cardiac issues involved. The cardiologists and surgeons will have to work through this.

Is she at a CCC, can they do radiation and chemo only? Has that been offered as an option. Oftentimes radiation and adjunctive chemo is the firstline treatment for BOT cancer.


Gary Allsebrook
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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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#35162 05-12-2007 10:50 AM
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Hi Gary,
Thanks for responding. She is currently with Univ of Penn. He only offered extensive glossectomy, free flap and bilateral neck dissection, he didn't think at the time that she would need rad after. He offered no options at all. My mom was dx with BOT, stage II. I don't know size. I am exhausted, it's been a very long month...and today i was with her and she just seemed so lost.


Donna
CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
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Donnarose -I'm so sorry it's been so rough on you. But you still have to hear from the cardiologist in Philly to call on Monday so maybe there's a good reason for that and it just could be a positive one. Also the fact that the stress test cardiologist asked her if she felt pain during the test and that she said "no" is something that I would ask about if it were me. I've had zero experience with cardiac problems but maybe someone else has. And as Gary says, maybe she just needs a "tune up"! Sounds like the girl from the office must have been confused but I think I would have been upset, too, about the mix-up.
Donnarose, you have been so positive with your Mom, you really sound like a wonderful daughter and someone any mother would be so proud to have! But caregivers do get stressed out . I know I did and there were times when I felt I was the only one fighting this thing. You must take care of yourself, too, so that you can have the strength to keep going for your Mom. Maybe another motorcycle ride? Keep posting so we know what's happening, ok?


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CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



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Hi Donna, I can understand why you're discouraged, it does seem like the hits just keep on coming. On the other hand, this is not something that you would want to be finding out during surgery. The cardiologist and surgeon will confer and figure this out. U of PA is a CCC and cases are presented to the tumor board to get input. You gave your Mom a great answer. Hang in there and Happy Mother's Day. Regards JoAnne


JoAnne - Caregiver to husband, cancer rt. tonsil, mets to soft palate, BOT, 7 lymph nodes - T3N2BM0, stage 4. Robotic assisted surgery, radical neck dissection 2/06; 30 IMTX treatments and 4 cycles of cisplatin completed June 06.
#35165 05-12-2007 03:40 PM
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Donna,


Soory to hear things are so rough. When it rains it pours and I know some days it all seems so much more then we can even think of handling , but we can and we do and belive it or not you make perfect sense to me ! I know I have to be reminded often that I can and will get through it. Some days it is so overwheleming and like you said ...lack of sleep..I know that too..I wonder if that plays a part in it for us. Your mom is sooooooo LUCKY to have a wonderful daughter like you ...Just was you are lucky to have a mom who raised such a strong ,compasionate and Good hearted daughter ! As far as the Cardio question ..i dont have a whole lot of experience with it , I know they dont like to do surgeries on people with them ..And I know that the test ( not the ultrsound one ) EKG can give false positives ..My 14 year olds reads wrong aLL THE TIME ...It reads as though she has an enlarged right side and believe me it can be nerve racking ..But when we have the Echo ( ultrasound one ..I hope I have names straight.) It shows everything is OK. SO Wait to hear from the Dr and take a deep breathe ...I hope you and your MOM have a WONDEFUL mothers day !


Sharlee
35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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Thanks AnneMarie, JoAnne and Sharlee.
I understand what each of you said, andI think maybe I didn't post correctly...I wanted formt he beginning for them to check mom's heart before she went to have surgery-my beef is that they never called to tell us something was abnormal, I called them because of ins and mri issues and asked what her results were, that's the only time that they said soemthing about her seeing a cardio because of the abnormal t-wave. I think it was unfair and to see my mom build up her strength-emotionally-day by day and then to hear her voice and see her expression when they said it was called off because something is not quite right with her heart. Her doctor never called to talk to her after they decided to cancel it....no one from the onc office called to see that she understood. I think I am just miserable about everything these days and probably spoiled from having very good doctors and specialists for my care. This waiting is difficult, to say the least.
I wish you all a very happy mothers day!


Donna
CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
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Yes ,


waiting sometimes seems to be the worst part. Atleast when you are doing surgery or Rad you feel like you are doing something !! BUt do me a favor ..better yet ..do yourself a favor...ready ?

Take a deep breathe and just Enjoy Mothers day today with your mom !!! (((HUGS))) to you .


Sharlee
35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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Thanks.
I know you've read this before, probably said it yourself...I don't know how I would have made it thorough all this without this site. You all are my angels.
Enjoy tomorrow. I will once I get everything set up and the food is out.


Donna
CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
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Happy mothers day everyone...

Donna,

I feel for your situation...

Prior to the cancer diagnosis, my mom had a protruding hernia and wanted to get this fixed. Before surgery could be performed, she went through the litany of tests to prove she was safe for the surgery.

They found a major blockage of her left carotid artery. This had to be fixed first before the doc was willing to do the hernia. She went through with the carotid artery operation. Despite her frail body, my mom handled the operation very well. The surgeon came back a few days later to tell my mom that the surgery went well and that she could look forward to getting the hernia fixed in a few months and that clearing the blockage may have bought her another 10 years. Two months later (bam!!!) her T4 cancer was diagnosed. That was a huge blow to my mom.

This emotional rollercoaster is tough on the patient as well as the care giver. To this day (14 months later) my mom still asks why did this happen... Why did those tests to prove she was a safe candidate for a fairly minor outpatient surgery miss finding the cancer?

We had to twist the hernia doctor's arm to do the outpatient hernia repair after the cancer diagnosis... This done to give my mom a better quality of life.

My advice is to keep your mom focused on the next hurdle... Looking at all the hurdles in front of her she has yet to jump is too much and will only get her more depressed... Also, keep reminding her of the hurdles she has already completed... Remind her that she is progressing forward and celebrate her successes.

Paul

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