#2756 06-13-2004 08:30 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 164 Gold Member (100+ posts) | OP Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 164 | Well I've almost given up on solid foods. Anybody able to survive on a total liquid diet by mouth. I want to be rid of the PEG tube, but am concerned about weather I'll be able to do a total liquid diet.
I've heard of ScandiShake. Can I get sample before buying mass quantities?
Any help would be appreciated!! Lynn
Stage 3, N0, M0 oral tongue cancer survivor, 85-90% of tongue removed, neck disection, left tonsil removed, chemo/radiation treatments, surgery 11/03, raditation ended 1/04, lung mets discovered 4/04,
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#2757 06-13-2004 09:47 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 146 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 146 | Hi Lynn,
I had a total glossectomy in July 2003 and just had my trach and feeding tube removed on April 1st. Right now I'm strictly on a liquid diet and even though I've tried some soups consisting of mainly broth they still don't taste good even though I finished radiation 11/03. Plus I would have to consume ALOT of soup to make up my calorie intake for the day! I've even tried soup with small noodles but since I don't have a tongue, the noodles just seem to get lost in my mouth even when I try following it with water. I know I haven't given eating my best shot yet but right now I'm so tired of trying that I'm content on liquids. I have tried the Scandishakes (both strawberry and chocolate) and although I don't believe their website offers any samples to try, I would be happy to send you a sample of what I have here at home. The nice thing about these shakes is that when mixed with 8 oz. of whole milk generates 600 calories! I personally like the strawberry the best.
If you're interested is trying them, just let me know. You can send me an email with your home address and I'll get them off to you as soon as I can.
Take care, Nancy
Stage IV oral cancer (tongue), T3N2, total glossectomy with right and left modified neck dissection 7/03, rad /chemo ended 11/03
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#2758 06-13-2004 01:41 PM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 | hi Lynn,
after having my peg removed, i was on an essentially liquid diet for about a year. i ate huge amounts of ice cream. initially i could drink 12 oz of shake type stuff in about 45 minutes. let's just say that i had to make time for eating. i tried to drink water and it took about 4-6 months to go from 45 to 10 minutes to drink a glass.
my diet was just to keep me going... the docs told me to eat anything i could... that translated into about 4 or 5 gallons of ice cream per week. i also used Scandishakes... chocolate.
i got scandishakes in boxes of 6 packets for about $6-7... at the local grocery store.
now i eat fine... and often like to have a chocolate shake with lunch.. it goes so well with a cheeseburger.
cu, larryb | | |
#2759 06-13-2004 05:19 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Lynn, I came across a chart with exact quantities/recipes for liquid diets using regular food but I can't find it. I will keep looking. Meanwhile, here is a document that gives about the same info. I hope it helps. http://patienteducation.upmc.com/Pdf/PureedDiet.pdf Ed
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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#2760 06-13-2004 06:11 PM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 189 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 189 | Dear Lynn,
I know it's in the archives but this recipe saved Dennis during chemo and rad.
2 cups ice cream 1/2 cup half-and-half 1 package instant breakfast 1 cup whole milk 3 TBS Ovaltine 1 TBS Malted Milk
It has about 1300 calories per serving.
I hope this helps.
Love, Mandi
Husband diagnosed with stage III tonsil and floor of mouth cancer in August 2002. Three rounds of chemo/42 RAD treatments. Upper right lung lobectomy in March 2003. (Benign)
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#2761 06-13-2004 11:32 PM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 30 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 30 | Lynn, I finished radation on April 28, 2003 and have been living on Ensure, malts, soup, poached eggs, and sloppy mashed potates with gravy. I have no salvia or taste. I had cancer of the jaw bone, gum, and lymph nodes on the left side, 4th stage. I can't seem to gain much weight back, I'm under weight. Right now I'm fighting pneumoina since Feb. 7. That doesn't help the weight. Mary Lee | | |
#2762 06-14-2004 01:52 AM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1 Member | Member Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1 | Lynn, My husband had about half of his tongue and the floor of his mouth removed in Feb. of last year so he has to eat liquid/soft/pureed diet only. His PEG was taken out in November and he is doing great without it. He drinks 6 cans of Ensure daily. We buy the Wal-Mart equivalent of the Ensure Plus (a lot cheaper). He also eats whipped yogurts, pudding, milk shakes and we puree at least one meal a day for him.
Laurie
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#2763 06-14-2004 07:30 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 164 Gold Member (100+ posts) | OP Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 164 | Thanks all I knew you would come through. What grocery store can you get the scandishakes at?
Laurie, I just can't seem to get past the thought of pureed food.I tried beef stroganoff pureed, but I couldn't handle it. I pretty sure it's mental.
I appreciate all your help. Leaving town for a few days, I'll check in when I get back.
Lynn
Stage 3, N0, M0 oral tongue cancer survivor, 85-90% of tongue removed, neck disection, left tonsil removed, chemo/radiation treatments, surgery 11/03, raditation ended 1/04, lung mets discovered 4/04,
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#2764 06-14-2004 10:07 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 | hi Lynn,
Thanks all I knew you would come through. What grocery store can you get the scandishakes at?
Giant Grocery... which was just bought out by Stop&Shop. that was in Salisbury, MD... health food/vitamin isle.
the breakfast shake stuff is also good and widely available. use two packets per shake.
cu, larryb | | |
#2765 06-14-2004 02:08 PM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 164 Gold Member (100+ posts) | OP Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 164 |
Stage 3, N0, M0 oral tongue cancer survivor, 85-90% of tongue removed, neck disection, left tonsil removed, chemo/radiation treatments, surgery 11/03, raditation ended 1/04, lung mets discovered 4/04,
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