#26524 07-14-2004 06:28 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 261 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 261 | Anyone else sick & tired of coughing, choking & sometimes sneezing in the middle of trying to eat? Eating has become such a chore that I'm not all that excited about it & actually skip meals which doesn't help with the weight gain, I've actually gone backwards a couple of lbs. lately. Tired of eating the same foods, although I can eat everthing now, it's just such hard work to wash it down & choke, etc. Guess I'm just having a low spot mentally. I've been back to work some lately, picking & choosing what I do. Being self employed I can do that. I'm confused about what I should do for a living, go back to what I was doing before or go in a different direction. I'm rambling, sorry. Feeling kinda lost lately. I think I'd go crazy without these boards to read. This damn disease makes you look at everything so differently its hard to sort out whats important & whats trivial in the new life.
dx 2/11/04 scca bot T3 IU 2B MO poorly differentiated, margins ok, 3/16 modest, jaw split, over half of tongue removed, free flap from left forearm - finished chemo & rad treatment 5/20/04
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#26525 07-14-2004 06:50 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 153 | hey Erik,
good to hear that you can eat everything again.
i couldn't eat for quite awhile... when it started back, my experience was like yours. for me the musles needed to be strengthened and got that way by continued use. i also needed to learn how to eat food effectively... like sometimes i will chew a normal sized bit of beef. however to save time and energy, i also will use my knife and fork to cut it down to tiny pieces that i don't have to chew so much.
you're on the right track, stay with it!!
cu, larryb | | |
#26526 07-14-2004 06:58 AM | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,627 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,627 | Hi Erik, Reading your post made me feel like I was reading my own writing. I have felt and still have moments of feeling just as you described. I'm a year out from treatment so I have left the "tougher" days behind me, but I still wallow a bit now and again. Eating will get better Erik, of that I can assure you. You are only a few months out of radiation so give it some time. What gets me through the process of eating is melted cheese believe it or not. I put cheese on everything............steak, chicken, you name it. A nice Rib Eye, cooked medium well on the grill, smothered in Colby and Jack cheese is pretty easy for me to eat. A broccoli casserole with lots of swiss is a breeze, and nachos smothered in Jack, mild salsa and refried beans is a great late night snack. Be patient and your menu will grow, you will learn "tricks of the trade" and gain enough knowledge on it to write your own book. Eating will become a pleasure again........never the same but still something to look forward to. My goal was to be able to eat AND read a book (I'm an avid reader and always, always read while I ate my meals)I'm happy to report that I can eat an entire meal WHILE READING Look at me, I used to always be a few pounds underweight, now my husband went out and bought a treadmill...........I think it's a hint!! Joking but I do get on the treadmill now, I've gained back the weight treatment stole from me and the weight fairy brought me an extra 18 pounds! Take care, Minnie
SCC Left Mandible. Jaw replaced with bone from leg. Neck disection, 37 radiation treatments. Recurrence 8-28-07, stage 2, tongue. One third of tongue removed 10-4-07. 5-23-08 chemo started for tumor behind swallowing passage, Our good friend and much loved OCF member Minnie has been lost to the disease (RIP 10-29-08). We will all miss her greatly.
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#26527 07-14-2004 07:03 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,244 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,244 | Hi Erik Glad you can eat anything, just remember how far you have come, go back and read some of your own earlier posts, I'm sure that will help with your perspective of now. :rolleyes: Sunshine...love and hugs Helen
SCC Base of tongue, (TISN0M0) laser surgery, 10/01 and 05/03 no clear margins. Radial free flap graft to tonsil pillar, partial glossectomy, left neck dissection 08/04
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#26528 07-14-2004 07:34 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Erik,
Even at 9 months I experience everything you are right now. I have warned people not to sit in front of me when I am eating because I just don't know when the body will use the sneeze reflex to clear my throat. Sitting in front of an air conditioning vent fries my throat at church. I have felt so good this week that I developed an illusion that life is back to "normal". Then after dinner last night, my throat started hurting and today I can barely talk or swallow. I have to admit it has been several weeks since my throat hurt and the swallowing, talking thing has happened. I was just discouraged from it, nonetheless.
I also share your sentiments on the work thing. I don't have the same drive of putting in the hours I used to and I want to spend nights with my family. I have traveled a lot since about 1999 for work and I just don't want that to be the only option right now. As hard as I have been looking for something, though, I may not have a choice.
Take care and be patient. It does take time.
Your lost brother,
Ed
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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#26529 07-14-2004 09:35 AM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Hi Erik, when they talk about the "club that no one wants to join" what you are going through is a condition of membership. I'm self employed too - I had to be very selective about who I went to luch with for a long time. At least I didn't have them sit directly across from me.
Just imagine the Isrealites wandering aimlessly in the desert for over 40 years eating manna (which didn't taste so hot I am told -probably made by the same folks that gave us Ensure ;-) looking for the Promised Land. Your journey will be MUCH quicker!
You are right on schedule for the depression phase of this adventure also.
We've all been there. Be patient it'll get better.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#26530 07-14-2004 09:39 AM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 106 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 106 | Why does this thing do that?? Anyway, I find that the best way for me to get anything down is if I have a book in front of me. I don't want to eat in company, even in front of my husband, because I don't want to gross him out. I just spoon the soup in very slowly, follow every spoonful with water, and take my time. Reading seems to distract me and my throat some, I don't cough as much. Maybe watching TV or listening to music would help, too. Just a suggestion, it may not work for others. Leena
scc right tonsil T1N1M0, right tonsillectomy + modified neck dissection 3/04, radiation IMRT both sides X33 ended 6/04. Also had renal cell carcinoma, left kidney removed 11/04
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#26531 07-14-2004 09:44 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 372 "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 372 | Hey Erik, My husband, Dan, has the same problems. He is 4 months post radiation and can eat different things now, but he has no taste buds so the desire to eat is really not there. I try and get him to eat more all the time but he says I should try eating cardboard that gets stuck in the throat and makes one cough and gag. I hope you and Dan will soon be able to taste and eat without so much trouble. Even though I see him go thru this everyday, I can't imagine what it's like inside to feel all these different things. You are in my prayers! Debbie
Debbie - Caregiver for husband, Dan, diagnosed with tongue cancer 7/03. Partial gloss., mod. neck dissections, graft. Recurrence neck tumor 12/03. Radical left neck dissection 12/24/03-unable to get all the tumor. 8 weeks chemo/rad beginning 1/12/04.
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#26532 07-14-2004 11:34 AM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 251 | Erik, My husband was also doing the coughing, gagging thing when he was at your point post treatment. But now he hardly ever goes through all that while eating. (Oddly enough, milkshakes are still one of the foods that send him into coughing fits.)
Things will get better!
Anita
Husband Dx 12/02 Stage 4 Tonsil Cancer T1N2bM0; surgery, radiation, chemo 1/03 - 4/03.
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#26533 07-14-2004 04:54 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 16 Member | Member Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 16 | ha i have the same problem and iam still on liquids i understand what your going through just think about how far you have come
take care you give me hope
clint
30yr WM ,2003 dx oral squamous cell ca of tongue had lesion removed on lt side of tongue and 9 nodes 1 node pos. had 36 treat. rad therapy 2004 had lesion growing on lt base of tongue had partial glossectomy with skin flap taken from left arm
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